IT’S “CARRY ON CAMPING” AT PENARTH’S CLIFF PARADE

Police were in attendance as a new legal summons was attached to posts in the car park this afternoon

Police were in attendance as a new legal summons was attached to posts in the car park this afternoon

The  “unauthorised encampment” setup by travellers at Penarth’s Cliff Parade car park is still in situ today  with no sign of any imminent move to comply with the Vale of Glamorgan Council’s legal ultimatum.

The 10:00 o’clock legal deadline had been laid down by the council – by which the six caravans and five families were supposed to have vacated the car park. But the deadline came and went …and nothing moved .

Ten o'clock this morning was supposed to be "high-noon" in the stand-off with the travellers - but they were not the first to blink.

Ten o’clock this morning was supposed to be “high-noon” in the stand-off with the travellers – but they were not the first to blink.

A Vale of Glamorgan Council van was at the car park at the deadline passed – but it turned out to be a cleansing unit attending to the public toilets and was not involved in the stand-off with the travellers – even though detritus is now accumulating in the newly extended area of the car park where the caravans are sited.

This afternoon there was another official visit to the unauthorised campsite by Vale of Glamorgan council officials – backed up this time by three police officers.

The new legal notice invites the campers to attend a civil court hearing tomorrow at 11:00

The new legal notice invites the campers to attend a civil court hearing tomorrow at 11:00

The council officials posted a new notice on the posts nearest the caravans to replace the earlier legal letter. The new notice turned out to be an invitation to what are described as “persons unknown” to attend a hearing at Cardiff County Court at 11:00 tomorrow morning.

The hearing is scheduled to take place at the Cardiff Civil Justice Centre in Park Place. As none of the ‘persons unknown’ is actually named, it could well be that the travellers encamped at the Cliff Parade car park may come to the conclusion that this is nothing to do with them and may decline to attend.

The nearest building to the unauthorised encampment is the Waverley Care Centre where 120 elderly people live

The nearest building to the unauthorised encampment is the Waverley Care Centre where 120 elderly people live

There’s speculation that the legal processes involved  might now take as long as another 28 days and this could be just the start of a long – and expensive –  legal battle.

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16 Responses to IT’S “CARRY ON CAMPING” AT PENARTH’S CLIFF PARADE

  1. Andrew sarchus says:

    So the untaxed car remains? The detritus builds up. Who will pay the bill for the inevitable clean up? This does present a publicity opportunity for Cllr Earnest though. New broom and all that.

  2. Anne says:

    The Vale have failed to provide an official site which invites camping wherever.

  3. Andrew sarchus says:

    Perhaps you could give us more detail Anne? Do you mean sites where tourists can stay on a sort term paid for basis? Or do you mean tax payers should stump up for a site that the so-called travellers can reside free of charge? What do you mean by “camping wherever” ?

  4. sjleworthy says:

    are councils obliged to provide sites for travellers at the tax payer’s expense?

    Anne, there’s a difference between campers and travellers. these are not campers.

  5. Lame says:

    That’s it we will show them “file that paperwork”.

  6. snoggerdog says:

    if it was a flat earth,(at least i dont thinkit is, our geography teacher read us biggles/we johns persona non grata in the libraries now i guess)t he uk would be very near the edge.

  7. Vic says:

    Travellers still occupy the old recycling yard at Sully, even though they apparently broke a lock to gain entry. If I broke into anywhere, I’d be in big trouble – because I work, pay taxes and have an address.

  8. Andrew sarchus says:

    Do Gypsies and Irish Travellers pay taxes and rent?
    All Gypsies and Travellers living on a local authority or privately owned sites pay council tax, rent, gas, electricity, and all other charges measured in the same way as other houses.
    Those living on unauthorised encampments, generally speaking, do not pay council tax, but they also do not generally receive services. There are occasions when basic services, such as a toilet or a wheelie bin, are provided and the Gypsies and Travellers might make payment for this service direct to the appropriate local authority.
    All residents within the UK pay tax on their purchases, petrol and road tax as do Gypsies and Travellers. Really! Source UK Government

  9. AK says:

    27.9 days it will be then before they leave!

  10. 249ers says:

    A Travellers’ way of life is just as much a mystery to me as mine is to them, however The Vale have a legal obligation to provide suitable sites for Travellers, where they are then able to collect council taxes from residents. Until these are in place Travellers will park up wherever they can.
    More support and tolerance is needed or travellers will continue to park in ‘your back yard’!

    • jtr69 says:

      Just go and look at the crap they have left behind and I think you will harden your views toward them.

  11. Richardson says:

    If we provide traveller sites then it would appear they cease to be travellers. I think less support and tolerance is needed to keep them moving. Why should we constantly cater for every minorities lifestyle choices.

    • Peter Church says:

      Careful Richardson, you don’t want South Wales Police knocking on your door.
      All comments are monitored and any hint sensible talking here will be dealt with swiftly.

  12. Ivor Bagman says:

    I thought these travellers were all macho men !
    Why would they need to camp it up ?
    And where will it lead to ?

  13. jtr69 says:

    Just visited the Gypsy site on Beech Cliff and I am glad to see that these rudderless scumbags have moved on to some other lay-by elsewhere. They have certainly reinforced their reputation for being professional litterbugs.
    Just go and see the junk that they have left behind and it will make your blood boil to soda-stream levels. Gas bottles, broken furniture, dirty nappies on the ground. What an absolutely disgraceful and selfish community they are. These people have zero regard for anyone else other than themselves and they couldn’t give two hoots for the environment.
    (rant over)

  14. Martin gossage says:

    As I mentioned before , the song goes ; ” Oh we leave behind our nappy sacks, we don’t pay no council tax .”

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