UK Treasury Minister Priti Patel in Cardiff today said familes and business in Wales have to pay £650,000,000 a year to the EU and in 2020 fuding from EU will be slashed . Penarth MP Stephen Doughty claims there's "no real reason" to think that.

UK Treasury Minister Priti Patel in Cardiff today said familes and business in Wales have to pay £650,000,000 a year to the EU  – and in 2020 fuding from EU will be slashed . Penarth MP Stephen Doughty claims there’s “no real reason” to think that.

Stephen Doughty the Labour MP for Cardiff South and Penarth has today been  attempting to rebut an authoritative prediction that the European Union will have to slash or totally terminate the money it gives Wales – even if the UK votes to stay in the E.U.

The forecast has been  published by the respected Institute of Welsh Affairs on its website “Click” and is made by UK Treasury Minister Priti Patel

Treasury Secretary Patel – in Wales today – points out that there’s no guarantee that these “EU-branded funds” [ part of the money paid over to the EU by UK taxpayers – of which only a fraction is returned to Britain ] will continue beyond 2020.

In her Institute of Welsh Affairs article, Minister Patel says that if Britain votes to remain within the E U, the European Union’s  finances are going to be so stretched by having to give money to newly-joined countries that structural funding for Wales would  be either reduced ( as it has been in the past ) or terminated altogether after 2020.

Backbench Labour MP Stephen Doughty however has attempted to contradict Patel and asserted today :-  “The fact is that no other part of the UK benefits as much from EU membership as Wales does and there is no real reason for us to believe that will change”.

The Treasury Secretary Ms Patel however is emphatic . She says ” Leaving the EU would mean that families and businesses in Wales would no longer have to fork out nearly £650,000,000 a year to pay towards the UK’s membership fee. That’s over £16,000,000,000  since joining the EU in 1973, which goes to the EU’s wasteful, corrupt and bureaucratic institutions which have not had their accounts given a clean bill of health in over 20 years”.

She asks “Would you entrust your savings to bank that had a track record of poor financial management, or hand money over to a conman? No you wouldn’t. But membership of the EU gives unelected bureaucrats the power to pillage our pockets in the most expensive daylight robbery in history.”

Treasury Secretary Patel says leaving the E U will  “strengthen democracy and devolution in Wales”. Her full article is on the Institute for Welsh Affairs website on

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  1. Andrew sarchus says:

    Secretary Patel makes some very good points. Especially on the corruption front. Over £5 billion a year has been going “missing” hence the accounts are never signed off. Mr Doughty on the other hand has a very poor record.

    • pompousfruit says:

      Sorry but Stephen Doughty is right here. There are too many countries in the EU now but Wales is among the poorest parts and will still get funding.

      • Andrew sarchus says:

        You as always just deal in conjecture not facts. Be gone.

      • pompousfruit says:

        I have a right to express my opinions. If you don’t like them you should go instead.

      • Andrew sarchus says:

        There you go agin- conjecture. There is no such things as rights. It’s a Sapiens invented concept. Rather pompous eh! fruit. If we do have right its my right to say you make thoughtless & groundless comments 😉

      • pompousfruit says:

        What is this word salad that you are going on about?

  2. Timothy Hughes says:

    What unelected politicians spending our money. I am sure members of the House of Lords, like Nick Bourne who lost his seat in the 2011 election but was immediately ennobled and has recently joined the Wales Office ministerial team, would have something strong to say about that.

  3. EH says:

    Claims, counter-claims, speculation, conjecture, half-truths, lies and lots of personal agendas and attacks. What’s missing? Absolute incontrovertible FACTS! Why? Because there are very few of them. Best shot, check out the BBC’s excellent EU Referendum Reality Check.I take nothing I’m told by Leave or Remain at face value.

    • Kevin Mahoney says:

      Presumably this would be the pro EU BBC which has accepted countless £millions of EU funding over the years?

  4. Taffy says:

    EH talks sense. Doughty has little original thought!

    • pompousfruit says:

      What is this? The Stephen Doughty Hate Club? Is he not right wing enough for you? And who is EH?

  5. Paul says:

    Personally I don’t see how Stephen could possibly have any inside knowledge about what the EU may or may not do. It’s just his opinion, personally I think he’s wrong by about this. The EU is corrupt and not accountable to us. He’s right though that after the referendum Wales will still be one of the poorest parts of Europe. I would prefer that the money squandered on the EU currently remain in the uk and the government spend some of it here to try and improve things. That is something we can hold our own politicians accountable for and judge them on at the next election.

    • pompousfruit says:

      Stephen Doughty most likely knows more about the EU than you do. And the EU doesn’t have a monopoly on being corrupt. The UK Government and the rest of the Establishment is even more corrupt. Wales is and always has been a net recipient of EU funding.

  6. Penileaks says:

    I don’t think that it is rocket science, just consider the facts.
    The countries on the waiting list to join the EU are all countries that will take money out of the Union and not ones that will contribute more than they receive and so it stands to reason that either the amount in the pot for distribution purposes remains the same and every country receiving money will find that there is a smaller payout because there are more to be paid, or the amount that the paying out countries contribute will have to go up to maintain the pay out levels.
    As the UK as a whole is a ‘paying in’ country and the money that we pay in to the EU comes from taxation of one form or another, all citizens of the UK will have to pay more in taxation to maintain the levels of EU payouts to Wales and the other receiving nations and if taxation is not going to be raised to cover the extra costs of this, the amount that every, receiving nation receives, including Wales, will decrease.
    The countries waiting to join are: Montenegro, Macedonia, Serbia, Albania and Turkey, with Bosnia Herzegovina and Kosovo as later potential candidates. I would suggest that none of these will be net payers in to the EU, but will only take out.
    The UK government has apparently already agreed to pay £169.5 million a year under the EU’s Instrument for Pre-Accession Assistance, to these countries plus a further £640 million to Turkey under the recently announced deal involving the stemming of the immigration crisis.
    One further point of interest, might be that Switzerland, who have been trying to join the EU for years, has finally decided that they will withdraw their application. They would have been a net contributor and paying into the Union pot. I wonder why they finally decided not to continue their application ?

  7. Andrew sarchus says:

    PompyFruit pure conjecture once again. No facts, no theories no evidence form you. S Doughty when shadow spokesman for business didn’t know what a Ltd company was (do you?) so I Dought-he has a clue about the EU. The ex charity drainer is a lightweight trying to be a trainee statesman… ha hah. I see more evidence of expertise in some of the posts here than Doughty has ever demonstrated.

    • Lindsay says:

      Oh dear Christopher, or whatever you’re called today, don’t you ever tire of dredging up the same old “copy and paste” stuff day in day out? We’ve got the point, we know what you think, so let’s move on old boy. Deal?

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