DINAS POWYS BY PASS? – IT’S UP TO THE VALE COUNCIL – SAYS FIRST MINISTER

Conservative Leader Andrew R T Davies pressed the Welsh Labour Government for a commitment on the long-awaited Dinas Powys by-pass

Conservative Leader Andrew R T Davies pressed the Welsh Labour Government for a commitment on the long-awaited Dinas Powys by-pass (the rough route of which is on the map)

The long-running saga of proposals to build the Dinas Powys by-pass turned another page yesterday when the issue was raised in First Minister’s Questions in the Welsh Assembly.

Penarth Conservative AM and  leader of the Welsh Conservatives Andrew RT Davies  pressed Carwyn Jones on one of the hot button election-issues in the South Wales Central constituency – the need for a Dinas Powys by-pass  – a project which could benefit motorists in Penarth.

Davies said with the numerous housing developments taking place in Barry and Sully – including the 350-housing application approved in Cog Road, Sully last week – the demand for a bypass in the area was now ‘greater than ever’. He wanted the First Minister to tell the Assembly whether residents of Dinas Powys could feel confident the First Minister would support a funding application to build the by-pass within this Assembly Term (2016-2021) .

First Minister Carwyn Jones

First Minister Carwyn Jones

First Minister Carwyn Jones told the Assembly  he knew the current road well and conceded that “It is a busy stretch of road “.

He said “It’s a matter for the Vale of Glamorgan Council to consider” .The Dinas Powys by-pass “would not be a trunk road, it would be a road run by the local authority but of course we would be happy to examine any proposals that they might wish to bring forward”

In the recent Assembly election, the Welsh Conservatives had said that if elected they would build the by-pass.

Speaking later Andrew R T Davies said “With numerous housing developments in both Sully and Barry being approved by the Labour-run Vale Council, it is imperative investment is made in our local transport infrastructure to cope with the likely huge increase in demand. Many roads in the Vale, particularly Dinas Powys, are already at breaking point and with yet more houses on the way it is clear demand for a bypass is now greater than ever.”

“Today’s comments by the First Minister have put the ball very much in the Vale Council’s court and I would implore them to take urgent action to improve the lives of commuters.Hardworking people can only hope the Labour-run administrations in Barry and Cardiff Bay now wake up to these pressures and make decisions which will benefit the lives of those across the Vale of Glamorgan.”

 

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21 Responses to DINAS POWYS BY PASS? – IT’S UP TO THE VALE COUNCIL – SAYS FIRST MINISTER

  1. Christopher David says:

    WOT; another bus lane!

  2. Ford Prefect says:

    Oh Great, tarmac acres of countryside to save people who can’t be bothered getting a train or cycling a few minutes. What a forward thinking idea!

    • ColinD says:

      Getting a train or cycling a few minutes… what a blinkered view of society.. if only it were that simple…

      • Andrew sarchus says:

        So you think its acceptable long term to continue to overpopulate and fill up the roads with cars Mr D? Sorry but I don’t see how suggesting trains or cycling represents a “blinkered view of society” The two sentences don’t correlate.

    • Paul says:

      Perhaps for most people cycling or trains are not viable options. Did you even think of that before you accuse them of being lazy? By the way, what do you cycle on, not one of those horrible Tarmac things by any chance?

      • ColinD says:

        Spot on Paul, plus a lot of the traffic through Dinas Powys is from residents of Barry and the wider rural Vale who are avoiding the main trunk roads into Cardiff in an attempt to save time. Am sure a lot of them wouldn’t fancy a 20 mile bike ride each morning to work!!

      • pompousfruit says:

        There are cycle paths to cycle on and cycling on roads doesn’t take up as much space as driving on them.

      • Paul says:

        Pomposfruit, a fair point but remember that a lot of people don’t actually work in the middle of Cardiff and commute further than a 20 min cycle ride.

      • pompousfruit says:

        And it rains a lot. I don’t mind a bit of rain but not heavy rain combined with heavy wind. But if all those working in central Cardiff who don’t need the car to get about to do their work took the train there wouldn’t be the need for the by-pass.

  3. ColinD says:

    Andrew Sarchus, I don’t think its acceptable but it’s inevitable, I also don’t think it’s acceptable to build hundreds and thousand of houses without considering their impact on the environment and current infrastructure. It’s naive to suggest that we should all suddenly use public transport and / or bikes. it’s not practical, and I dare say most workers would not physically be able to cycle to work each day either due to their fitness, demands of their job or the distance they live from their work, and current public transport is poor, often disrupted and is not convenient for 24/7 working.

    Perhaps blinkered was a poor choice of word, maybe realistic would be a better word to use. Of course we would all love traffic free roads and people using sustainable and ecological modes or transport, but it’s not going to happen, not in our lifetimes, so I find the standard off the cuff remarks in response to solving traffic issues to use public transport or a bike infuriating to say the least!!!

    • Lindsay says:

      Colin, it’s really not worth continuing a discussion with andrewsarchus (aka Christopher David), best leave him to his reverie.

  4. Andrew sarchus says:

    No Mr D what’s inevitable is it will all fall apart and we will be forced to change. A good start would be scrapping the Black Route. And I agree with you the the house building issue. We need less people not more houses.

    • pompousfruit says:

      How do we get fewer people? A one child per woman only policy that China used to have? Anyway there isn’t that much of a need to build more houses because there are enough empty buildings to house people some of which is social housing.

      • Cymry Llundain says:

        The latest official figure for net migration to UK in 2015 is 333,000 so the real figure is probably quite a bit more than that. This allows the construction industry and central goverment to constantly repeat the false mantra that we need to build 250,000+ new homes every year.

        Councils need to produce Local Development Plans to show how they’ll meet these targets. No-one cares about the sustainability of this model, the impact on infrastructure, or material planning considerations, although LDPs are supposed to address these issues. The bottom line is it’s all about building more houses.

        As evidenced in the recent Sully planning applications, no matter how inappropriate an application, if it’s big enough, it will get pushed through.

        The spin that house prices are too high because there is a lack of supply is a blatant lie – it’s the government’s monetary policy that makes houses unaffordable for so many.

    • Paul says:

      It takes over an hour to drive to Newport now simply because of the poor roads. Its easier to drive to Newport for work from Bristol. Scrap the black route an leave it as and eventually there will be fewer people – they will all move away. Fewer workers, less tax and an even poorer country with fewer opportunities than we currently have.

  5. AK says:

    Perhaps before we spend millions on a by pass, we should simply remove the empty bus lane(s) and return the roads to full capacity.

    Also, return bus stops into a layby rather than the middle of the highway.

    And finally, switch off those damn traffic lights at night and off peak times.

    • ColinD says:

      i agree re. the bus lane, however removing that and giving use to cars will just cause a bottle neck, similar to what you have at leckwith going into Cardiff, 2 lanes into 1 lane and back into 2, whoever came up with that genius idea needs a good talking to!! although probably not possible a better solution in my view, would be attempting to continue 2 lanes (including the bus lane) out of Dinas, past the Merry Harrier and through to the Barons Court junction, i certainly think the planners could be a little more creative in attempting a solution rather that spending millions on new road. However with 2 busy roads, Cardiff and Redlands meeting at that junction I don’t think there’ll ever be a favourable solution…

  6. Christopher David says:

    Well said AK.

  7. Max Wallis says:

    The LDP process/inquiry is supposed to be the way these local ‘strategic’ roads are decided, with the Inspector’s decision expected in a few months. Arguments there on the fraction to cycling, buses and trains.. That includes some element of democratic participation and debating the evidence (and cost). Carwyn Jones is therefore wrong to say it’s up to the Vale Council. And the Labour Council is wrong to jump the gun in approving the Sully application before the Inspector reports. Carwyn’s statement shows a conspiracy between the two, which our politicians should challenge – did Andrew R T Davies miss it, caught on the hop? And we the public should not let them off the hook, with the above slanging match.

  8. AK says:

    Traffic planners live within walking distance of a windowless office, and cycle or walk everywhere else !

  9. Parcel says:

    Exactly where are they thinking of building this ere bypass……

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