“YOU CAN’T WORK BEFORE 8:00 OR AFTER 18:00” – SAYS VALE COUNCIL

The 1st and 2nd floors of the former British Legion Club are to become offices - but the Vale Council says staff can't be therefore before 8am and must leave by 6pm

The 1st and 2nd floors of the former British Legion Club are to become offices – but the Vale Council says office staff can’t start work before 8am and must leave by 6pm

The new owners of the former Penarth British Legion Club, ABA Holdings Ltd,  are seeking to remove a Vale Council restriction which prevents anyone employed in the new offices being set-up in the building either arriving too early –  or working too late. 

There was no such restriction on the British Legion itself, when it occupied the first and second floors of the premises and operated its bars and dining facilities there until late at night.

What was once the main Legion Room is to be converted into offices

What was once the main Legion Room is to be converted into offices

The two floors, once occupied by the Legion, are now about to be converted into commercial offices. However  – the Labour-controlled Vale of Glamorgan Council has imposed a restriction  requiring  all staff employed there not to start work before 08:00 on weekday mornings and not to work there after 18:00 in the evening .

On Sundays the Vale Council has laid down that no one can use the offices before 10:00 in the morning and must leave by 17:00 on Sunday evenings. The council claims this is to “safeguard the amenities of adjoining occupiers, and to ensure compliance with the terms of Policy ENV27 of the Unitary Development Plan.”

ABA Holdings has told the council that the condition “is not necessary or reasonable.” and points out that the Welsh Government has laid down six tests that should be met before such a restriction is applied. These require a condition to be :-

  1. Necessary
  2. Relevant to planning
  3. Relevant to the development to be permitted;
  4. Enforceable
  5. Precise
  6. Reasonable in all other respects

ABA Holdings has told the council “A condition should not be imposed unless it is considered necessary” and that therefore the time-restrictions the council has applied are not either necessary or reasonable.

The new owners say the time-restrictions have already had “a significant negative commercial impact” on their ability to let the offices to prospective tenants.

Cllr Clive Williams (Conservative Plymouth Ward)

Cllr Clive Williams (Conservative Plymouth Ward)

When the application to remove the condition came before Penarth Town Council Cllr Clive Williams (Conservative Plymouth Ward) said  that although councillors were sad to see the British Legion Club close ” in the name of progress I move for acceptance”.

Cllr Gwyn Roberts (Labour St Augustines)

Cllr Gwyn Roberts (Labour St Augustines)

Cllr Gwyn Roberts (Labour St Augustines ) said  when it was the  British Legion it was open a lot longer than that [i.e. the restricted hours set by the Vale Council]  and the Bottle Shop underneath was also open late . He said   “I think we should relax the time restrictions”.  

Penarth Council recommended that the time restrictions should be lifted – but the Vale of Glamorgan Council has yet to agree.

 

 

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9 Responses to “YOU CAN’T WORK BEFORE 8:00 OR AFTER 18:00” – SAYS VALE COUNCIL

  1. The Tax payer says:

    So what about the taxi firm next door which I understand is open 24hrs a day and on the ground floor ???

  2. Christopher David says:

    Good point Tax Payer. Here’s the policy. As much as I hate losing the Legion- it would have been nice to see it resurrected on the ground floor but that couldn’t happen, this kind of ruling looks absolute rubbish. Just making up “stuff” for the sake of it. Ve are ze VOG, vou vil listen hand obey.
    POLICY ENV 27 – DESIGN OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS

    PROPOSALS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT MUST HAVE FULL REGARD TO THE CONTEXT OF THE LOCAL NATURAL AND BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND ITS SPECIAL FEATURES. NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL BE PERMITTED WHERE IT:

    COMPLEMENTS OR ENHANCES THE LOCAL CHARACTER OF BUILDINGS AND OPEN SPACES;
    MEETS THE COUNCIL’S APPROVED STANDARDS OF AMENITY AND OPEN SPACE, ACCESS, CAR PARKING AND SERVICING;
    ENSURES ADEQUACY OR AVAILABILITY OF UTILITY SERVICES AND ADEQUATE PROVISION FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT;
    MINIMISES ANY DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON ADJACENT AREAS;
    ENSURES EXISTING SOFT AND HARD LANDSCAPING FEATURES ARE PROTECTED AND COMPLEMENTED BY NEW PLANTING, SURFACE OR BOUNDARY FEATURES;
    ENSURES CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACES;
    PROVIDES A HIGH LEVEL OF ACCESSIBILITY, PARTICULARLY FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORT, CYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS AND PEOPLE WITH IMPAIRED MOBILITY;
    HAS REGARD TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN DESIGN, LAYOUT, MATERIALS AND TECHNOLOGY; AND
    HAS REGARD TO MEASURES TO REDUCE THE RISK AND FEAR OF CRIME.

  3. Ivor Bagman says:

    Does the council have an
    Aversion to
    Job creation ?

  4. Kevin Mahoney says:

    Restricting the hours of office use are mad and unreasonable.

  5. Helen Highwater says:

    Absolutely ridiculous to impose these time restrictions! What about cleaning staff who normally go in before or after working hours? What about the Conservative Club? The Indian restaurant? The Paget Rooms, Foxy’s and all the other businesses in the area?

  6. Penileaks says:

    You do wonder what planet these planning people at the Vale are on !
    Live near or walk past The Railway Hotel pub, even after midnight on most Saturdays and listen to the noise……and the Vale are worried about the noise of office people arriving, tapping keyboards and leaving Station Approach after 18.00 and before 08.00 ???
    The only condition should be that there is a smoking area designated, that is not on the public pavement (as at Avon House), so that all the ‘dogends’ do not end up on the pavement outside the main entrance. Leave the rest alone and allow others to invest and work !!

  7. Frank Evans says:

    When I read this I thought they weren’t allowed do any work between 8am and 6pm!! Sums up the vog council I thought l.

  8. Denzil says:

    They’ve applied for a 24 hour licence for the seven offices.

    • AK says:

      Essential if you are trading worldwide !
      Most of the rest of the world does not work 0800 – 1800 GMT

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