Deputy Leader of the Vale Council r Lis Burnett (Labour St Augustines) with Council leader Neil Moore (Labour Cadoc Ward Barry)

Deputy Leader of the Vale Council Lis Burnett (Labour St Augustines) with Council Leader Neil Moore (Labour Cadoc Ward Barry)

Tonight members of the Labour-controlled Vale of Glamorgan Council are being asked to vote on what’s being described as a “political trap”  being put before them by Council Leader Neil Moore (Labour Cadoc Ward Barry) and his deputy, Cllr Lis Burnett  (Labour St Augustines).

Cllr Moore and Cllr Burnett’s earlier attempt to get the entire Vale Council to support another  ‘political’ motion (supporting the “Remain” campaign in the E U Referendum)  came badly unstuck when the majority of councillors refused to take such a vote.

Tonight however the pair are trying again – this time with a motion which has  been described by  one senior councillor as “a political trap”.

It reads:-  “This Council believes that The Vale of Glamorgan has a proud tradition of welcoming people from around the world and that our diversity makes us stronger. All those who choose to work and live in the Vale of Glamorgan are valued and as elected representatives we pledge to stand together against hate and intolerance in our communities from wherever that comes and whether it is based on race, religion or belief, age, disability, political affiliation, sex or sexuality.”

Similar policies adopted by Labour-controlled Nottingham City Council have resulted in the appointment of a “Hate Crime Officer” in the council and a “Hate Crime Manager” at  Nottinghamshire Police  – who now define hate crime as ” simply any incident, which may or may not be deemed as a criminal offence, which is perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hatred.”

Cllr Jeffrey James (Conservative Rhoose)

Cllr Jeffrey James (Conservative Rhoose)

One of the most experienced members of  the Vale of Glamorgan Council , Cllr Jeffrey James (Conservative Rhoose)  says the  Vale Council motion is  “obviously an attempt to make political capital out of anyone who votes for or against it  I suspect – if it’s not Labour”.

He said “I suspect it may be  a political act – a trap for other members to fall into.”

Cllr James says that the council is entitled to “take a view [on such matters] – but as the Labour Party and the Llantwit Independents supporting them are in control,  I’m not sure why they feel that they want the council of all the members of all the parties  to support or not support.”

Cllr James added that the Labour/Llantwit Independents who control the council could always  “give their own opinion on these things .” 

Normally votes in the Vale of Glamorgan Council are taken on a show of hands – but a Cllr James says the controlling Labour/Llantwit group may call for a “recorded vote” to be taken at tonight’s meeting. If that happens each councillor, and the way he or she votes on the motion, would be officially minuted and published.



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  1. Christopher David says:

    Ruddy Hell. What’s is the matter with these jumped up squirts? You don’t…listen DON’T have a cabinet and very few are interested in your very amateur worldly views. Just learn how to calculate a meals on wheels budget and fix the potholes. AARRRGGGG. Where are the grounded independents? We have Doughty and the dope’s to suffer. Wasacks grandstanding for their own perceived self importance instead of just doing the basics properly. You’re councillors not cabinet members- and cabinet members you never will be.

  2. Philip Rapier says:

    Jeff James is right in so far as this is at best a foolish and unnecessary.
    This from a Local Authority already in breach of the the Human Rights Act Article 10 (Freddom of Expression) by banning Punch and Judy from the Beaches..
    AND By demonstrating tolerance of prejudice in favour of putting the rather lack lustre Llantwit “First” this is in breach of Article 14 (Discrimination)
    Putting “Llantwit” ” First” is a clear Breach of the Human Rights Act and the Vale’s tolerance of the Grouping is highly questionable.

    Llantwit FIRST and
    Article 14: Discrimination

    The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, “national or social origin”, association with a national minority, “property”, “birth or other status ”

    Punch and Judy ban.and
    Article 10: Freedom of Expression

    (1) Everyone has the right of freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without inference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This Article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.

  3. Christopher David says:

    Well let me express my freedom -great sentiments but please don’t encourage them. Just get them to fix the potholes and get basic services working better. This Barry “cabinet” hah ha haaarrrr is held together with loose screws.

  4. Kevin Mahoney says:

    Rather ironic that at last nights council meeting in presenting the motion and linking it’s presentation to the referendum Brexit vote, Lis Burnett repeatedly had to admit that there had been no rise in hate crime in the Vale despite her and Neil Moore feeling the need to present this motion.

    Plaid Cymru’s Ian Johnson couldn’t help taking advantage of the platform of the council chamber by offering the opinion that the possibility of increased hate crime incidents has been fuelled by figures involved in the Leave campaign, a statement which I feel was in itself inflammatory and unhelpful in calming any perceived situation down, and remarks which I challenged, much to the chagrin of Neil Moore who later disgracefully twisted the words of my own statement to suit his own agenda knowing that I by then had no right of reply.

    Lo and behold in this mornings press we do indeed find that there has been a rise in hate crime in the Vale with a doctor in Cowbridge declaring in the press that he has had to report a hate crime to the authorities after his car sporting a Vote Leave sticker was vandalised by someone scratching STAY in the paintwork.

    Following the media claim that South Wales police have confirmed the incident, It would seem that the ever so politically correct Lis Burnett was incorrect in her statement last evening that there has been no rise in hate crime reports in the Vale, there of course has now been at least one, and my assertion during the meeting that misinformed politically driven accusatory statements by others are not helping the situation has indeed unfortunately been borne out.

    I would like to think that we will now be seeing a statement issued by Neil Moore and Lis Burnett condemning such incidents and pleading with those more volatile supporters on the Remain side of the referendum vote to restrain themselves from this type of crime.

    I remain personally supportive of the prosecution of all forms of this type of criminal behaviour from whichever beliefs that the perpetrator is motivated by.

  5. Christopher David says:

    What an utter waste of time. FIX the potholes. Thanks for the truth though Kevin, but I am surprised you turned up for such a non-event. Makes the wannabees feel important.

  6. Kevin Mahoney says:

    I turned up Christopher because it was a full council meeting of which I have 100% attendance record over the last 4 years or so having been elected to represent the residents of Sully and Lavernock at these meetings.

    .As I pointed out last night I attend to discuss and vote on council business affecting Vale residents not to listen to politically motivated motions presented by those characters desperate to push their own political agendas through the medium of the council chamber.

  7. Christopher David says:

    Yes exactly. Such a pity you and the whole of the Vale have to endure these windbags. Is there no room for selectivity on a day? I mean if the grown ups- those concerned with as you say council business boycotted the children’s “motions” (apt) they’d have to give up….. wouldn’t they? Surely they need a quorum or whatever to obtain a vote on the silly stuff? To be frank I don’t know how it all works including the nonsense that Moore can spout off without you having a right of reply. Councillors- this is a metaphor- fix the ruddy potholes.

    • Lindsay says:

      At last. Christopher David admits ” I don’t know how it all works”. We cottoned on the that a while back.

  8. Lindsay says:

    On the wrong track as usual Christopher. Keep trying. I remain flattered by your interest.

  9. Lyndsay Doyle says:

    Interesting to note that when the tub-thumping has such a limited effect, some correspondents resort to chest-thumping, vulgar language and bravado intimations of physical prowess. Surely the Age of Enlightenment heralded the supremacy of reason and intellect?

  10. Christopher David says:

    Nope, some may say you’re not entitled to an opinion. Nor even a vote if you’ve fleeced us all.

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