MIXED REACTIONS FROM LOCAL POLITICIANS TO TRUMP ELECTION VICTORY

Outgoing President Obama - and President-Elect Trump are due to meet at the White House later today

Outgoing President Obama – and President-Elect Trump are due to meet at the White House later today

The election of Donald Trump as the next president of the USA has been met with a predictably wide range of reactions from local politicians .

Stephen Doughty (Labour MP for Cardiff South and Penarth)

Stephen Doughty (Labour MP for Cardiff South and Penarth)

Stephen Doughty – the Labour MP for Cardiff South and Penarth –  appeared to blame American voters – saying said he was “deeply disappointed that the United States has failed to elect its first woman as president. Doughty said the USA had opted for a man who – he claimed –  had  “dragged the election campaign into the gutter with sexist, racist and divisive remarks.”

Doughty however went on to describe the Presidential Election result however as “a wake-up call for all seeking office or public support that ‘business as usual’ will not inspire those in our societies who feel economically excluded and left behind.”

Vaughan Gething (Labour AM for Cardiff South and Penarth)

Vaughan Gething (Labour AM for Cardiff South and Penarth)

Vaughan Gething (Labour AM for Cardiff South and Penarth said “It’s a deeply concerning outcome and I won’t pretend to be happy.

Gething said ” I’m not convinced that this is simply a triumph of anti-establishment politics. There is a huge challenge for progressive politicians across the world to meet.”

He said he hoped that ” Donald Trump reaches out to countries and people within the USA and beyond – however that would require a significant change in approach.” 

Penarth AM and Welsh Conservative Leader Andrew R T Davies

Penarth AM and Welsh Conservative Leader Andrew R T Davies

Penarth’s Conservative AM and Leader of the Welsh Conservatives Andrew RT Davies said the outcome of the election had been  what he called “a bloody nose for the political establishment”.

He said that President- Elect Trump had made it clear that Britain would  not be at the “back of the queue” after Brexit – [as his predecessor President Obama had said it would be]. 

Davies said the UK must now work collaboratively with the new President-Elect “to deliver on the trade deals he has promised for the United Kingdom.” He said America had been a key ally of the UK for many decades, and “we must continue to work together to guarantee the security we have enjoyed since the end of the Second World War.”

First Minister and Labour Party Leader Carwyn Jones

First Minister and Labour Party Leader Carwyn Jones

The Labour Welsh Government First Minister Carwyn Jones – who is supposed to speak for Wales as a whole –  has chosen to deliver a very public snub to President-Elect Trump by not congratulating him on his election.

On the other hand, Vale of Glamorgan Conservative MP and Secretary for State for Wales , Alun Cairns, said “We will do everything to make the Trump presidency a success.”

Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood called for “calm heads” and urged that politicians should be  “winding down the rhetoric”. Wood said “If Trump wants to do business with the rest of the world, he must row back on the appalling comments we saw throughout the campaign.

Part of Leanne Wood's less than literate message on Twitter

Part of Leanne Wood’s less than literate message on Twitter

Wood also went to the trouble of posting a jargon-laden message on Twitter – only in English (Wood doesn’t speak Welsh)  –  further berating the Trump result,  but which unfortunately contained a schoolgirl howler which remained uncorrected throughout the day.

 

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35 Responses to MIXED REACTIONS FROM LOCAL POLITICIANS TO TRUMP ELECTION VICTORY

  1. Big Davey says:

    Like your opinions count!

  2. Martin Coffee says:

    I was one of those who supported the petition to have him banned. Just because he has been elected doesn’t change my view. I hope he is not invited to visit the UK or Wales.

    • Mark Foster says:

      After the idiots in the Tory and Labour parties voted to ban the President of the United States from the UK he should deal only with Nigel Farage and the Monarch until they exercise the Royal Prerogative to drain the UK swamp.

      • Louise C says:

        To be fair, banning Trump seemed a great idea at the time. This election result was somewhat unexpected.
        Mrs May is going to have to smile and shake his hand, poor woman. I guess Mrs Stugeon is made of stern stuff and can do that too. I don’t expect Carwyn will be called upon to meet him.
        The Queen has shaken hands with Martin McGuinness so I guess she can shake Trump’s hand too. Lucky she wears gloves!

  3. Frank Evans says:

    I just love Vaughan gethins reaction. Deeply concerning! SORT OUT THE WELSH NHS and let democracy run its course in other counties. Didn’t the labour party try to oust it’s own leader in a coup? Maybe democracy thingy has no place in labour minds.

  4. RetailGuru says:

    Like Donald Trump is going to worry about the reaction from the Welsh Assembly lol

  5. Christopher David says:

    OOeerrr Carwyn’s snubbed Trump and Gething / Doughty remain confused. Old Donald must be hiding under his bed. PS just to get the quiet but nicer ones jigged up,Trump has a useless son who is a big game hunter and intends to increase gun ownership rights and promote big game hunting.

  6. Ian Perry says:

    Brexiteer Andrew RT Davies has said that Trump has made it clear that Britain would not be at the “back of the queue” after Brexit. Sadly, Andrew RT Davies isn’t bright enough to realise that there may be no queue for the UK to join.

    Trump is anti global trade and pro-protectionism. His policies on trade include:

    “1. Withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which has not yet been ratified.

    2. Appoint tough and smart trade negotiators to fight on behalf of American workers.
    said the outcome of the election had been what he called “a bloody nose for the political establishment”.

    4. Tell NAFTA partners that we intend to immediately renegotiate the terms of that agreement to get a better deal for our workers. If they don’t agree to a renegotiation, we will submit notice that the U.S. intends to withdraw from the deal.”

    He want more manufacturing in the US and fewer goods importing…. Sadly, once again, Andrew RT Davies is misinformed, or deceiving the public.

    Trump elaborated:

    “Today, we import nearly $800 billion more in goods than we export.

    This is not some natural disaster. It is politician-made disaster.

    The first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, warned that: “The abandonment of the protective policy by the American government… must produce want and ruin among our people.” 59
    Our original Constitution did not even have an income tax. Instead, it had tariffs – emphasizing taxation of foreign, not domestic, production.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, it’s time to declare our economic independence once again.

    That means reversing two of the worst legacies of the Clinton years.

    America has lost nearly one-third of its manufacturing jobs since 1997 – even as the country has increased its population by 50 million people.

    At the center of this catastrophe are two trade deals pushed by Bill and Hillary Clinton.

    First, the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA.

    Second, China’s entry into the World Trade Organization.”

    Sources:
    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/trade
    https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/DJT_DeclaringAmericanEconomicIndependence.pdf

    Andrew RT Davies is the political establishment. He and his associates are deceiving the public when they suggest/claim otherwise.

  7. Andrew Worsley says:

    The ordinary people are sick to the back teeth of the cosy relationships and nice little ‘earners’ indulged in by MPs and others who seek power . We are sick of the Tories punishing the poor and disabled and taking money from them whilst letting the corporations and companies and wealthy individuals avoid tax and be able to salt money away. It was the ordinary people who bailed out the banks , did they ask all the wealthy and corporations for the money? NO , they took it off those without the power to refuse. And once that was fixed they turned to the same ordinary workers and said , ” right now we have fixed that using YOUR MONEY we are going to impose austerity on you, but NOT ON OUR WEALTHY pals. The result in Americas Presidential election is a backlash from the people against the ‘same old, same old’ game of musical chairs by those in Government , people are looking for some honesty and fair play and a different way of doing things. Those MPs who are quite happy to ‘keep taking the money’ whilst only providing lip service to the electorate, of course don’t want this change , hence all the uproar and horror of Corbyn winning the Labour Leadership . They want the gravy train to keep on rolling , THEY ARE NOT AFFECTED BY AUSTERITY AND NEVER HAVE BEEN , when your on a good wage like they are and you can claim for anything like expenses etc , your not worried about bills are you , as you can claim for something to help pay that bill. And many MPs like Tory Mr Bone has his wife working for him , so in effect keeping the gravy train in the family and he is not alone. As for the local MPs opinions , they are worth less than the ink used to write the words, total nonentities plus one desperate for attention ‘Look I’m Here’ or to give him his identity Mr Doughty.

    • Paul says:

      I agree with almost everything you wrote but I don’t agree about Corbyn and the labour party. Nothing much has changed under his leadership, his version of politics may strike a chord with some people but ultimately he’s going to have to make himself electable to people who don’t live in London and others who’d political views have moved on since they were students. So far, he’s not even stirred the gravy train let alone derailed it.

  8. Lindsay says:

    Just when Trump thought life couldn’t get any better he hears that he has the support of Alun Cairns. That’s the icing on the cake.

  9. Tyger says:

    Like Trump cares about the ants-for-politicians that call themselves the Welsh “government”.

  10. Peter Church says:

    I have to laugh at these local mino’s prognosticating on global matters.
    People in other countries have marker their X in their ballot papers, you shut up and concentrate on matters closer to hand. We didn’t vote for you to give a running commentary on subjects you neither understand or have any control on.

  11. snoggerdog says:

    all you psychics out there,can you tell me if benjamin button is going to become a reality ?

  12. Andrew Worsley says:

    To answer you Paul when you say , nothing much has changed under Corbyns leadership!!! it may have slipped you by Paul but for over a year, Mr Corbyn has had to deal with disloyal Labour MPs who would rather cripple his leadership and divide the party than work with him. It may further have passed you by that he has been all over the country fighting a leadership challenge which he won a SECOND TIME. One would ask what you’d expect from a leader who has been fighting disloyalty whilst gaining support of the public??? you say the Labour Party has not changed much under his leadership , with all the upheaval he has had to deal with and appealing to his supporters , what time as he had to get to grips with changes within the party??? One further wonders how someone , say yourself would be able to implement changes in the midst of such upheaval ???? id say very little or none, and yet you judge Corbyn or the party for not showing any real change AS YET. You sound like the sort of person who in a house that has caught fire , saying to the residents , “lets all go in to the sitting room and have a cosy chat”… ignoring the fire. And as for saying he has got to make himself electable outside London ?? you may have missed it but on the news and in the papers for weeks on end Corbyn was touring the country talking to thousands (at every location) and don’t tell me they were all Labour Party members!!! , they were ordinary people who came out in their masses as they recognised a man with a new approach to politics, not the same old game of musical chairs by MPs and the same MPs involved only in their own interests the gravy train, and not the British public who they were chosen to serve. Which too many seem to forget, once inside Parliament, to some it becomes a game as they tinker with peoples lives and look towards enriching themselves on the money they are paid by taxpayers , the MPs themselves produce nothing but hot air so are the least productive element in the country and yet they somehow delude themselves into some idea they are special !! and yet they needed the publics help , and continuing help to remain where they are and to stay their , talk of ‘biting the hand that feeds you’.

  13. pompousfruit says:

    Leanne Wood is a Welsh learner and I’m sure I’ve heard her made addresses in Welsh as well as in English.

  14. Andrew Worsley says:

    Glad you saw things from my point of view Paul as you did not gainsay anything I wrote!. And you did not hit a nerve , you hit the common sense button you yourself seem (or seemed) unable to find, but so glad your now better informed and in agreement!.

    • Paul says:

      I’m perfectly well informed thanks, but I’m glad you’re glad. We only agree about Corbyn if you also think that he’s completely unelectable as PM to most of the country and under his leadership the Labour Party are divided by nternally and irrelevant as opposition

  15. Andrew Worsley says:

    Oh dear Paul it seems ever the scoundrel!!????? we do not agree about the unelectability , I thought I had pointed out that he is highly electable to large portions of the country ? , seems not . Well if you will consort with ignoramuses , read the wrong newspapers and align yourself with the wrong or shall I say corrupt or skewed media output , im not surprised your view is coloured in the very sense of the word . By that it would be blue or pale blue! And I note you now insert a part of your reasoning to justify your opinion ? we know there are disrupters in the Labour Party ranks , who despite Corbvn being popular with vast swathes of ordinary people and won the leadership TWICE, does not fit their ‘agenda’ hence the continuing disquiet . Those rebels or fifth column within the party want .,’ BUSINESS AS USUAL ‘ and to play the games with peoples lives as they and the Tories continue to do, oh and to indulge in outside interests to line their own pockets , Corbyn is not going to play THEIR GAME hence the plotting . At the moment we have Theresa May as PM , would you say she was highly electable ???????????? of course you wouldn’t we all know she has no charisma no, rapport with ordinary people AND YET she is PM, despite being unelected , totally undemocratic and having not to be voted for. Im only guessing Paul but I suspect that is more in line with your thinking !! and you probably think her position is lawful , acceptable etc . Which it clearly is not……………………to myself and most of the country .

    • Paul says:

      Nice use of capitals and punctuation. Calling people names because they disagree with your opinion is something that children do in the school yard, it’s not how adults should convince others their opinion is actually right. By the “wrong papers” and “skewed media” I’m assuming you mean the ones you don’t share your views, maybe we should ban them and only provide the right opinions? Even the most blinded Corbyn supporter can see he is not popular with “vast swathes” of “ordinary people”‘, you will only know that when it comes to the crunch at the next election assuming he lasts that long. The games going on in the Labour Party are no different from all the other parties, although fewer punches seem to have been thrown along the way. As for May being PM, you seem to have forgotten that we vote for an MP, not the leader in elections. The party vote for who they want to be leader and hence our PM. Labour did it before, the conservatives have done it now. Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good rant though.

      By the way, I’m no Tory voter

      • alunaptomos says:

        Crikey O’Blimey, some paragraphs please sir. This is the digital equivalent of green ink.

  16. Christopher David says:

    Don’t “the” party appoint its leader not the public? Anyway there is no point in nailing your colours to any one political party. Look at Plaid, fantastic Utopian manifesto. Can’t be delivered. Independence is impossible, there’s no money to deliver what they say they will, in fact quite the opposite we have a huge deficit and Plaid just don’t have much talent. As for our token worthies huffing and puffing in the Senedd and the VOG £800 chair littered “cabinet” I doubt Trump even knows where Wales is.

  17. Christopher David says:

    Well Paul you make some good points however we can’t all always be spot on with our grammar and punctuation, people should have some leeway eh. Yes proper use of the English language is important but mistakes shouldn’t be turned back on people making intelligent observations. I’m guilty of sloppiness I know. Anyway yours duly corrected below.

    “Nice use of capitals and punctuation. Calling people names because they disagree with your opinion is something that children do in the school yard, it’s not how adults should convince others[that] their opinion is actually right. By the “wrong papers” and “skewed media” I’m assuming you mean the ones [which] you [presume he meant ‘who’ not ‘you’] don’t share your views, maybe we should ban them and only [publish  those who] provide the right opinions? Even the most blinded [‘blind’ is an absolute therefore I’d suggest ‘most’ blinded is inappropriate and indeed if he was to use this redundant qualifier then it should be ‘blind’ not ‘blinded’.] Corbyn supporter can see he is not popular with “vast swathes” of “ordinary people”‘, you will only know that when it comes to the crunch at the next election [if you’ll only know it at the next election then how can any supporter see it now?] assuming he lasts that long. The games going on in the Labour Party are no different from all the other parties [yes, they are, each Party abides by a different constitution], although fewer punches seem to have been thrown along the way. As for May being PM, you seem to have forgotten that we vote for an MP, not the leader in elections. The party vote [ not the Conservatives, it was the MPs who elected the Leader, not the general membership] for who they want to be leader and hence our PM. Labour did it before [ as above, totally different election process], the conservatives have done it now. Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good rant though”.
    So- let’s all move on.

    • Paul says:

      Ha ha ha, thank you Christopher. Truth is my grammar is as bad as the next person’s. A red marking pen is in the post to you!

      I’d remembered the Tory party vote for their leader after I posted but couldn’t be bothered to come back on and correct it. My point though is that we. the public, don’t vote for the leader of any party (as far as I’m aware) in the general election

  18. Christopher David says:

    We, the public🙂 Sorry couldn’t resist and I have mightily hoisted my self with my own petard as I’ll soon slip. Point taken re appointed leaders, made it myself and agreed in full. .

  19. Christopher David says:

    Ha. enough already. Lets just enjoy the Trump-ism’s to come eh.

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