COUNCIL DOESN’T HAVE THE KNOW-HOW TO EVALUATE THE TIDAL-POWER LAGOON

The proposed Tidal Power Lagoon would be highly visible from Penarth and would extend out into the Bristol Channel and all the way upstream to the mouth of the River Usk

The proposed Tidal Power Lagoon would be highly visible from Penarth and would extend out into the Bristol Channel and all the way upstream to the mouth of the River Usk

The massive power-generating tidal lagoon – proposed to be built on the mudflats between Penarth Pier and Newport –  is such a complex project that Cardiff Council admits that it just doesn’t have the expertise to appraise it .

An  internal council report says that “the impact of such a project could be vast and hugely complex” but that  “the council is potentially facing a huge knowledge gap” 

A giant rock-armour sea wall similar to that planned for Swansea would enclosed the massive lagoon.

A giant rock-armour sea wall similar to that planned for Swansea would enclose the massive lagoon.

It also appears to be acknowledged that Cardiff councillors who are members of the Environmental Scrutiny Committee are going to be out of their depth.The report says that “additional support” will be required to “properly scrutinise a project of this type and scale  – which is far from ‘business as usual’.” 

The vast mudflats - stretching from Penarth to Newport and exposed at today's ultra low-tide - would be permanently lost if the lagoon project went ahead

The vast mudflats – stretching from Penarth to Newport (and exposed at today’s ultra low-tide)  would be permanently lost if the lagoon project went ahead

The report warns that scrutiny of the project will “require regular meetings over many years and across a very broad range of topics” and that “specialist witnesses will be required, reports many need to be commissioned, visits will need to take place, etc… “  – and all that is going to need “additional resources” [ i.e. money from somewhere ]

Keith Stockdale (left) and Professor Max Wallis (right) of Barry and Vale Friends of the Earth

Keith Stockdale (left) and Professor Max Wallis (right) of Barry and Vale Friends of the Earth

Meanwhile the environmental organisation Friends of the Earth says the internal report has failed to mention a number of “critical issues“.  Keith Stockdale and Max Wallis of the Barry and Vale Branch of Friends of the Earth say:-

  •  The destruction of the big area of mudflats in the Special Area of Conservation may possibly acceptable if there are over-riding grounds of socio-economic importance, but there’s no evidence on this, –  and “equivalent mudflats” would be required as “mitigation”.
  • The lagoon structure would drastically affect the sediment deposition in shipping channels to Cardiff docks and through the Barrage, as well as the tidal conditions for passage through the locks.
The tidal barrage would generaqte power from the enormous rise and fall of the tide in the Bristol Channel

The lagoon would generate power from the enormous rise and fall of the tide off Penarth

Tomorrow (Tuesday November 15th 2016) Cardiff Council’s “Environmental Scrutiny Committee” is to consider the report

 

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18 Responses to COUNCIL DOESN’T HAVE THE KNOW-HOW TO EVALUATE THE TIDAL-POWER LAGOON

  1. Christopher David says:

    Aren’t there 18 managers in CCC being paid £110,000 plus- and they don’t have the skills to evaluate! Not even evaluate the evaluation!! You may also notice they’re ramping up expectation in terms of time and cost in order the shock will be less when they milk it. Classic double glazing sales tactic.

  2. Mike baker says:

    Why are we not considering a bridge link between Cardiff and Weston S-Mare, where a tidal barage could be encorporated,(which could provide a very large proportion of our electricity) the bridge could be high enough for shipping and it would take away the problem of a Newport bypass….those making these decisions should perhaps start thinking outside the box…

  3. AK says:

    The Council doesn’t have the skills to construct a viewing platform correctly, so I agree that it should not be trusted to evaluate something which may affect the entire ecosystem for decades.

  4. 249ers says:

    Maybe if people had admitted they did not know what they were doing when the Headland link was being planned, people who DID know could have been brought in. Its too late after the event as all that’s left is the blame game.

  5. Christopher David says:

    Mike the Severn barrage has been on various drawing boards as far back as the 19th Century (I’m advised) I’m not sure how it failed last time but I do know cost and environmental issues were big factors.

  6. Mgg says:

    Tons of concrete and brick holding back the tide. Won’t that be the platform soon

  7. Martin Coffee says:

    Well done to Cardiff for understandings their limitations.

  8. snoggerdog says:

    the tide ebbing so far out is unique,go on to ben salters site and see a a photograph of the pier,way in the distance on a very low tide exceptional !

  9. Joe blow says:

    If there is one thing that Penarth people should come together on, it is opposing this monstrosity.

  10. Tim Hughes says:

    Given that none of these have ever been built anywhere in the world then it is perhaps not unsurprising that a small unity authority in Wales does not possess the requisite skills.

  11. Christopher David says:

    As I understand it Mr Hughes they’re (CCC) saying they don’t have the skills to evaluate the evaluation? If that’s the case then why have we got c 18 mangers on £110,000 PA + ? As Titan say projects like this should be encouraged, caveat, if proved environmentally friendly- efficient and cost effective. Now where do we find a very very highly paid public sector worker to very simply evaluate a professional evaluation? Hmmmm.

  12. To pay the head of an organisation with a diverse range of responsibilities and an annual budget of £500m+, £170k is not excessive. The published information on numbers at £100k does not concur with your (frequent) quote (https://www.cardiff.gov.uk/ENG/Your-Council/Strategies-plans-and-policies/Documents/Pay%20Policy%20English.pdf).
    However the relevant issue here is the proposed lagoon. At £7b it would be something like 30+ times the size of the Cardiff Bay Barrage Project and to describe any evaluation of the impact of this project on Cardiff as “very simple” clearly shows your lack of any appreciation of what this would do to Cardiff.

  13. Chris David says:

    Well I have to beg to differ. Add in NICS pension and other benefits and the chap enjoys over £16,000 a month. That’s excessive. Business people that take huge risks are another matter. CCC even lost some of those £120k + people and didn’t see the to need to replace them. Its all part of the public (and political) sector empire building that’s out of control. As for the evaluation of this project itself that is extremely complex. But to evaluate the evaluation is nowhere near as complex. You don’t have to be an accountant to evaluate consolidated accounts.

    • Employers NI and employers pension contributions are part of total salary costs but not part of pay; at least you didn’t repeat your mistake in your reply but hid behind the use of “enjoys”. So your statement “18 managers in CCC being paid £110,000 plus” is incorrect. In two adjacent sentences you then criticise CCC for both reducing senior staff costs and for empire building. You seem to make a habit of exaggerating in your posts aren’t the actual facts good enough for your crusades?

  14. Chris David says:

    Well Frankly I’m not anal enough to check ad infinitum every update given this medium. Been for a rather nice lunch in the Charente in fact. Your point re salary cost v pay is irrelevant. Of course the point re 18 mangers is incorrect- they are paid a basic £120k +perks now. Hyper inflation? I take it you have a vested interest then and have never actually run a business. The rest is a smoke and mirrors diatribe aimed at scoring points and furthering the empire case. Your last sentence makes no sense!

  15. Chris David says:

    Weak Mr Hughes. I can see you’re on the run🙂 .

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