NO WINTER WAKE-BOARDING TO BE ALLOWED AT COSMESTON – SAYS VALE

The Cosmeston Country Park wakeboard circuit could have fun jumps and artificial , ramps and obstructions like this one in Florida

The Cosmeston Country Park wakeboard circuit could have fun jumps and artificial ramps and obstructions like this one in Florida where wakeboarders are towed along from an overhead cable

The Vale of Glamorgan Council has today issued more information about its proposals to set up a controversial commercial Wake-Boarding Franchise – using aerial towing cables – on one of the the lakes at Cosmeston Country Park.

No plans for the proposed development have yet been placed in the public domain – but today more information has come to light about exactly what’s envisaged

Mr Rob Thomas (Managing Director Vale of Glamorgan Council - left) and Cllr Kevin Mahoney (Independent Sully

Mr Rob Thomas (Managing Director Vale of Glamorgan Council – left) and Cllr Kevin Mahoney (Independent Sully)

Rob Thomas the Managing Director of the Vale Council has now issued more detail today in emails to  senior Vale ‘cabinet’ members –  which he has copied to  Cllr Kevin Mahoney (Independent Sully).

Mr Thomas says that the facility will not have 5 steel towers planted into the bed of the lake . Instead the overhead aerial cableway will be  supported on two massive  “A Frame”-type supports  embedded into woodland .

One of the "A Frame- type" towers at Hove Lagoon wakeboard centre . Cosmeston's towers could be similar

One of the “A Frame- type” towers at Hove Lagoon wakeboard centre . Cosmeston’s twin-towers could be similar but would be “embedded in wooded areas”

The height of the two proposed “A Frame” towers is not yet specified by the Vale but manufacturers say they can be either 6 metres high (20 feet) t0  11.5 metres high (37 feet) . A series of wakeboarder tow-ropes will be suspended from the overhead cables.

The legs of the A Frames will – Rob Thomas says – be “embedded in wooded areas, carefully selected for minimal visual intrusion”   .

Mr Thomas rebutts assertions that the proposed wakeboarding system will  affect wildlife . He says “The only perceived harm to birdlife could be if wakeboarding continued during the low season when overwintering birds arrive at Cosmeston, and it is not proposed that the wakeboarding will ever operate during the winter.”

He concludes by saying “This is, in my view a balanced approach.”

Vale Councillors Kevin Mahoney and Bob Penrose (both Independent Sully) are rallying opposition to the wakeboarding scheme –  arguing that the Country Park should be a place for quiet relaxation,  free from noisy commercial enterprises.

Councillor Bob Penrose (Independent Sully) with Cllr Clive Williams (Conservative Plymouth Ward) are on the same side in this battle

Councillor Bob Penrose (Independent Sully) with Cllr Clive Williams (Conservative Plymouth Ward) are both on the same side in this battle to stop the commercialisation of Cosmeston Country Park

Cllr Mahoney and Cllr Penrose have been joined today by Cllr Clive Williams MBE  (Conservative Plymouth Ward) who is president of the Conservative Party in Penarth .

Cllr Williams  – a former Mayor of the Vale of Glamorgan and a former Mayor of Penarth said today  “I am totally against any commercialisation of this “complex’ because the small group of people in power should not have the right to alter and affect the lives of  future generations.”

Cllr Anthony Ernest (Conservative Plymouth Ward)

Cllr Anthony Ernest (Conservative Plymouth Ward)

Tonight Penarth Town Councillor  Anthony Ernest (Conservative Plymouth Ward) has also weighed in against the wakeboard scheme saying he is “vehemently opposed to the entire concept”.

Cllr. Ernest says  ” I am absolutely horrified by the proposal to introduce such a commercial activity …and just cannot understand why any current member of the authority would want to destroy the peace and tranquillity of Penarth’s finest asset, which welcomes around 350,000 visitors every year –  many visiting Cosmeston several times a week.”

Cllr Ernest, who was charge of Leisure and Tourism in the Vale under the Conservative administration – says “Much of the park has special protection for environmental purposes, not least the bird and wild life which is so evident to all in the park’s 180 acres, and was the very reason that the park gained a coveted Prince of Wales Award almost from the day it first opened. This latest idea is an absolute nonsense and is merely a trashy business proposal thought up by a handful of uninspired and uncaring councillors  in the Vale. I will be doing my level best to ensure that the original concept of Cosmeston Lakes, as a nature and leisure reserve, stays that way in the future”

Penarth resident Anne Greagsby is an environmentalist and is Plaid Cymru candidate for the St Augustines in the Vale Council elections next May

Penarth resident Anne Greagsby is an environmentalist and is Plaid Cymru candidate for the St Augustines Wales in next May’s Vale Council elections

Meanwhile an on-line protest petition launched by Penarth resident, environmentalist and Plaid Cymru Vale candidate in St Augustines –  Anne Greagsby – is continuing to garner support with 11,000 people now having signed it.

The website address for the petition is http://www.thepetitionsite.com/en-gb/955/326/341/dont-bring-wakeboarding-to-cosmeston-lakes/

 

 

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29 Responses to NO WINTER WAKE-BOARDING TO BE ALLOWED AT COSMESTON – SAYS VALE

  1. Chris David says:

    Mr Thomas rebutts assertions that the proposed wakeboarding system will  affect wildlife . He says “The only perceived harm to birdlife could be if wakeboarding continued during the low season when overwintering birds arrive at Cosmeston, and it is not proposed that the wakeboarding will ever operate during the winter.”
    He concludes by saying “This is, in my view a balanced approach.” Over 9.000 signatures now Thomas. Just go away eh!

    • leigh A says:

      Yes but of the 11,000 signatures 9,000 are from outside the U.K. from people who have never heard of Cosmeston lakes! Personally I think the more leisure amenities we can offer the local,residents the better.

      • Cooper says:

        Cosmeston Lakes already is a leisure amenity, it creates a peaceful place for us humans to go to walk and relax and enjoy the wildlife there. Wakeboarding will have a negative impact on this so it may provide you with a new leisure activity but will be detrimental to those of us who already enjoy it as it is.
        Oh, and how do you know the people from outside the UK haven’t heard of Cosmeston?

      • Chris David says:

        Oh they have heard of Cosmeston- or how could they comment? So following your visionary assertions through let’s have duck shooting, dace dynamiting, Bittern baiting. Motorbike scrambling around the lake. Speed boat racing- oh and bring back ducking stools and play drown the fool. Jolly good.

      • Seth says:

        Yeah buddy, bring it on. Floating cinema and all the rest of the chav-tastic ‘amenties’ we can think of to keep the rabble occupied. Why waste any open space on wildlife when we can build another Oakwood park?

  2. penarthblog says:

    I’ve done a bit of research into Wake boarding and although the concept is a very good one, I don’t think Cosmeston is the right place for it, Cosmeston for me and I suspect for many others is a place for quiet reflection and meditation and besides there are plenty of other places where such activity would be appropriate and indeed welcomed.

    • NickP says:

      Agree totally. But the Vale need to raise revenue so they can get paid to squander it…

    • RetailGuru says:

      Completely agree, a beautiful reflective place in the summer and winter! Penarthblog, where would you suggest is more appropriate, out of interest?

      • penarthblog says:

        There are lots of places, former docks, reservoirs, some rivers. I’m also sure that some rural locations would welcome the additional income. It’s good that the council is looking at ways of generating extra income especially now in such difficult times, the idea of holding weddings could bring in funds without impacting those things that make Cosmeston what it is and I’m sure there are other ways too.

  3. Ivor Bagman says:

    How about a pre-emptive wake
    For the donuts

  4. Lm says:

    Leave the swans and ducks in peace!

  5. NickP says:

    When the elections offer the choice how many will vote for an alternative to thesm apparently incompetent (Penarth Head concrete lump), frankly un-democratic (Dinas by-pass) and definitely un-representative self serving Labour administration?

  6. David Moorcraft says:

    I’m not normally a big fan of Cllr Clive Williams, but here he is spot on, :-
    ” “I am totally against any commercialisation of this “complex’ because the small group of people in power should not have the right to alter and affect the lives of future generations.”
    Whether Tory or Labour , small Cabals usually end up causing problems , and the one in Barry seems to be bent on inflicting projects on Penarth that we neither want nor need
    The Sinking Disaster that is the Brand-New Penarth Head Observation Platform Anyone ?
    Cllr Moore’s own Titanic ?

    • Michael Garland says:

      I am afraid this is just ‘hot air’ from Cllr Williams, as he is supporting the ‘commercialism’ of holding wedding events in the Medieval Village part of the ‘complex’ and pre- position prior to the Vales Planning Committee Meeting.

  7. Big Davey says:

    Putting a awake boarding centre here is daft. It should go either in Cardiff Bay or in the regenerated Barry docks.

    To also put in the infrastructure and then not use it during the winter is also a daft waste of money as the Vale’s business case won’t stack up if it is shut for half the year, maintenance will be more costly etc etc.

    The bit they fail to mention is that a safety boat will have to be on station to pick up fallen and weary wake boarders so it isn’t just about the wire and gantries, there will be significant noise and wake from a safety boat.

    • Cooper says:

      The Vale won’t put it in Cardiff Bay because any money made would go to Cardiff. I thought Barry docks would be a good place for it too, it is already used for sailing and has far better transport links to it than Cosmeston, but ABP owns it so the Vale might not be able to make money from that either.
      Either way, putting wakeboarding, or any other similar watersports, in Cosmeston is a ridiculous idea and i’, glad so many people are objecting to this proposal, lets hope the Vale actually pay attention to public opinion though.

  8. Tom says:

    The Vale’s arrogance astounds me.

  9. Common sense at last! Thought this was going to be another #LabourLetDown

  10. Mgg says:

    Ah but imagine the money from the parking charges from all l the extra visitors . Wot ? there is no charge ? not even donations ? Opportunity missed forv20myears there

  11. John Wilson says:

    I have commented elsewhere but am glad to see a good number of our councillors opposed to this scheme. Apart from anything else both lakes together are designated SSSI and the whole park is a designated Local Nature Reserve. Acc to the application that the same person put in for Atlantic Wharf in 2012 and again in 2014, the pylons would be 8m high and the cable 7m above the water surface. This alone would constitute a bird strike hazard, esp for the Mute Swans, a species which often falls foul of overhead cables, plus the skeins of Canada Geese that often come in from The Knap and other local areas of water. I cannot picture where suitable areas of woodland are, that the towers could be ’embedded’ in, apart from where the bird table is [surely not] and along by the Mile Road [ridiculous]. Write to your local councillor asking them to oppose this application.

    • Seth says:

      To John Wilson. I am very grateful you have taken the time and trouble to explain the potential hazards to wildlife of this obscene scheme. I’m amazed Rob Thomas has the nerve to publicly discuss the possibility of it when the threat to wildlife is so evident in areas DESIGNATED SSSI and LOCAL NATURE RESERVE. To talk of embedding towers and the additional information given elsewhere about the need for a ‘safety’ boat seems to me beyond arrogant. Plus for years people have been told there is no swimming in the lakes on account of underwater hazards and now they are proposing people may drop from a height into the water? For crying out loud.

  12. RosyB says:

    Can anyone tell me where we can sign the petition, please.

  13. snoggerdog says:

    in the spring can we shoot the chicks instead of frightening them,you people who think this up,need an extra think,am i in the right job!

  14. Paul says:

    “it is not proposed that the wake-boarding will ever operate during the winter.”
    Oh, so no power skiing on the ice then….

    • Rob says:

      ‘Will’ operate suggests anyone signing the petition (in the belief democracy still exists) is wasting their time…

  15. Mary Edwards says:

    I think the idea of introducing this activity into the tranquil atmosphere of Cosmeston Park is totally deplorable. Please leave the park and the lake as it is, a haven for those seeking peace, away from the insidious commercial environment that permeates most of our lives .

  16. James Hayes-Carter says:

    Yeah, let’s just go the whole hog: Drain the lake, fill with cement and open the New Cosmeston… ASDA! Flatten the medieval village and build a McDonald’s!

    I’m sure there would be some in the Vale Council that would consider approving even those things!

    There is always someone, somewhere ready to destroy something nice, isn’t there?

    The main reasons for visiting Cosmeston Lakes are the peace, tranquility and therapeutic escape from the increasingly frantic – and unnatural – world we have to live in.

    Do the advocates of wake-boarding at the Cosmeston Lakes have any appreciation of these things? On their holidays, maybe – but not, sadly, in their own locality.

    Of course, if Wake-boarding is allowed, it will set a precedent, and open the door for the additional commercialisation of this lovely area.

    It’ll be an all or nothing situation: keep it as it is OR watch the area’s gradual ruination.

    Then it’ll be too late.

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