Secretary of State for Wales Alun Cairns is welcoming President Trump whilst Penarth MP Stephen Doughty is protesting

Secretary of State for Wales Alun Cairns is welcoming President Trump whilst Penarth Labour MP Stephen Doughty is protesting

The Secretary of State for Wales Alun Cairns (Conservative MP for the Vale of Glamorgan) has said today that President Donald J Trump would be welcome in Wales as part of his forthcoming State Visit .

Meanwhile Penarth’s Labour MP Stephen Doughty has tabled an “early-day” motion  in the House of Commons calling on MPs to “deplore” the forthcoming state-visit of US President to the UK and not to allow him to deliver a speech anywhere in the Palace of Westminster.

So-called “early day motions”  carry no weight, are never actually debated and Doughty’s motion will have zero-effect on the President’s forthcoming visit.

[PDN Note: President Trump has done what he said he would do in the course of his election campaign and has issued a presidential order imposing a 90-day ban on travel to the USA in respect of 7 (predominantly Muslim) countries which had already been identified by the Obama administration as security risks. He has also imposed a 120-day ban on refugees which prohibits then entering the USA . Asylum-seekers from Syria have been banned “indefinitely”.]

The Welsh Secretary Alun Cairns says  that whilst he disagrees with the US immigration ban, he will of course” welcome President Trump .

Taking the oppose tack – Penarth MP Doughty is quoted as saying “I love America. I love Americans. I have visited 25 of the US 50 states. I respect the office of President of the United States of America but I cannot honour Donald J. Trump – and nor should our Monarch, Parliament or Government.”

The Prime Minister Theresa May arriving at Cardiff City Hall today

The Prime Minister Theresa May arriving at Cardiff City Hall today

First Minister of teh Welsh Labour Government Carwyn Jones,

First Minister of teh Welsh Labour Government Carwyn Jones,

Meanwhile Welsh Government First Minister Carwyn Jones has told the Prime Minister Theresa May in Cardiff today  that a state visit from Mr Trump will be “difficult in current circumstances” and that the President should  not come on a state visit to the UK.

The First Minister was meeting the Prime Minister prior to a meeting of the Joint Ministerial Council of devolved leaders in Cardiff today.

However political insiders say that realistically the First Minister cannot afford to snub the US President because so many Welsh jobs depend on American companies .


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  1. Chris David says:

    I have an FOI in to Mr Doughty which is so far ignored. Continue to do so at your Peril Mr D !

  2. Peter Church says:

    Deal with day to day issues in your constituency and less on American Immigration policy, unless you want to live there 🙂

    • I’m sure that many of Doughty’s constituents support his tabling of the motion. In view of the previous petition to ban him from the UK the government should have had more sense than to invite him for a state visit.

      I hope he doesn’t come to Wales. I’ll join the protests if he comes to Cardiff.

      • Mark says:

        I don’t mean to be rude but ‘join the protests’?
        What next? Chaining yourself to the railings at Number 10?
        I do wish people would stop making a fool of themselves with all this student demo business. If you haven’t got anything better to fill your time, go and dig a trench in the garden.

      • Ann Other says:

        That is a ridiculous idea. You would be demonstrating against a constitutional decision made by a whole population! Mr Trump has been elected to lead (elected, note) a friendly democracy.

        The most worrying thing about the election is not Mr Trump but the shibboleth he has proved to be: his election has certainly shown up the fundamentally anti-democratic attitudes of the wishful-thinkers and damp liberals everywhere. They think they should, by rights, be in charge.

    • JME Snr says:

      Spot on chum. Our politicians should be focussing on how to make Wales and Britain better places for the ordinary person rather than indulging in rhetoric on issues they cannot control or influence.

      • hopenotnasty says:

        I would rather have an MP who speaks up and warns us about Trumps divisiveness .Surely it is better than to go down the road of Neville Chamberlain before the Second World War who tried too appease Hitler and Mussolini both fascists and nationalists.
        The world and some Penarth residents are slowly it would appear forgetting the horrors of world war some 75 years ago.
        Trump with his rhetoric is divisive and extremely dangerous. Ignore him and his ways at your peril. Putin and Trump are a very toxic mix.
        Only last weekend the former President of the Soviet Union Mikail Gorbachev warned that we are now closer than ever to another world war.
        I say a big thank you to Stephen Doughty.

  3. Dan Potts says:

    Whether one agrees with Trump’s policys or not, he is a least doing quickly what he said he would do if he was elected, it’s a pity our politicians don’t do that !

  4. Tim says:

    It’s getting very tiresome, this anti-Trump business. Outside of the political arena, it’s basically an excuse for boring nonentities to feel important, posting exhortations to sign petitions on their Facebook page, as though they’re on a superior intellectual plane. Boring beyond.

  5. Chris David says:

    Doughty is a lightweight and would do far better to stop grandstanding and get on with working for his constituency. I, and it appears others here don’t give one jot about his opinions on world affairs. But I would like him to use his albeit minimal abilities and focus on local issues including the wacky VoG council (and others) Pure conjecture on your part Mr Coffee.

    • Sam says:

      I didn’t realise Doughty was so pompous.

      • Chris David says:

        Yes arrogant indeed. Also suspect. As so called shadow business something-or-other he didn’t know what a Ltd company was when I challenged him after he bullied a small local one man band.

    • snoggerdog says:

      excuse me mr david,ive seen pictures of mr doughty,and i can tell you now,he is NOT a lightweight !

  6. Ian Perry says:

    Sean Spicer, the man with “alternative facts” has claimed that the Obama administration had identified these 7 countries as security risks. It’s curious that countries such as Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Egypt and Morocco have not been included on the list.

    Alun Cairns MP will do whatever will further his career within the Conservative Party, hence his very enthusiastic campaigning for Remain from the internet black spot somewhere behind Theresa May – whilst a copy of the Sun’s front page was displayed in the window of his offices in Barry…

    For those wondering what is the most pressing issue of the week in the world of Alun Cairns MP… His column (View from Westminster) in the Barry and District News this week is about his favourite curry house in Barry.

    • Concerned Citizen says:

      I think you will find (source: Guardian newspaper) that the countries not on the list are those where Trump has business interests!

  7. Andy says:

    Yes Carwyn, that’s right, so many Welsh jobs depend on American companies.

  8. Matthew says:

    Mr Doughty needs to concentrate on his own constituency instead of worrying about Trump in the US! Whenever I hear about Mr Doughty in the news its never about issues that might effect his constituents.

  9. Mark Foster says:

    Here’s the petition for Donald Trump’s State Visit to the UK. Please sign it and forward the link to your friends and acquaintances to counter the anti one.


    • Peter Church says:

      Yes, signed it thanks.
      If you look at the “other” petition on the coloured coded map, it lets you know where the immigrants in the UK live 🙂

      • Louise C says:

        Quite so. The racists seem to live in predominately white areas that voted leave.
        I’m very glad to see Cardiff South & Penarth is second only to Cardiff central in signing the anti-trump petition.
        I was also very heartened to see how large the anti-trump demo in Cardiff was. The far right might be on the march but the centre & left outnumber you.

    • Frank Evans says:

      Signed. Isn’t it strange the main stream media not so keen to publicise this petition. It’s why brexit came as such a shock to the liberal biased media.
      Ordinary folk are sick of being told what way they should think.

  10. Chris David says:

    This doesn’t change my opinion that Trump is an odious character and very dangerous. In particular his approach to the environment is extremely worrying. But the complacent establishments around the world need a major shake up. Even after Brexit- the French problems and Trump they continue to ignore the public they are supposed (including you Doughty) to serve and line their own pockets- pursue their own self aggrandising agenda’s. To defeat Trump and his ilk we need engage with Him / them. So in the interests of free speech, engagement and democracy I’ll sign. We need a non violent but very robust revolution.

  11. Frank Evans says:

    So sneaky doughty votes against article 50 debate.
    Self serving attention seaker and other less publishable words I would use about him.
    Who the hell voted for him. Ah Butetown ward I forgot.

  12. Louise C says:

    The Cardiff & the Vale both voted remain. Of course our MP voted against Brexit.

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