VALE COUNCIL DEFERS DECISION ON CONTENTIOUS COGAN HILL CONDO COMPLEX

The revised design for the proposed new Cogan Hill apartment complex which would be on the right hand side as you enter Penarth from Cardiff Penarth

The revised design for the proposed new Cogan Hill apartment complex which would be on the right hand side as you enter Penarth from Cardiff

The Vale of Glamorgan Council’s planning committee has deferred a decision on the revised planning application to build a controversial 4-storey, 44-apartment block at the “Gateway to Penarth” on Cogan Hill.

If approved, the massive apartment block – which some local residents have already dubbed “Colditz”, “Stalag 14”  and “Penarth Penitentiary” – would be the first thing people see  as they enter the town.

The notorious "Cogan Dip" is an Air Quality Management Area

The alleged “Canyon Effect” of the notorious “Cogan Dip” Air Quality Management Area was raised in the Vale of Glamorgan Council’s planning committee

The location is also adjacent to the infamous “Cogan Dip” Air Quality Management Area where the concentration of noxious exhaust fumes from stationery traffic often exceeds permitted limits.

Cllr Gwyn Roberts (Labour St Augustines)

Cllr Gwyn Roberts (Labour St Augustines)

Cllr Gwyn Roberts  (Labour St Augustines) – [the councillor who pole-axed the contentious planning application for the Northcliff Lodge residential development last month ] moved that there should be a “site visit” by Vale Planning Committee members to the site before any decision is made on the scheme.

Cllr Roberts said he was concerned about the visual intrusion the scheme would have on the entrance to Penarth and the local air pollution. He wanted members of the planning committee to see the site for themselves before taking any decision.

Cllr Clive Williams (Conservative Plymouth Ward)

Cllr Clive Williams (Conservative Plymouth Ward) is to stand for re-election as an Independent

His motion was seconded by Cllr Clive Williams (Conservative Plymouth Ward) who had also supported Cllr Roberts’s motion opposing Northcliff Lodge.Cllr Roberts’s motion – calling for a site visit to Cogan Hill – was carried unanimously.

The concerns about poor air quality in the Cogan Area also worried Cllr Peter King, (Labour Cornerswell) who is a member of the Vale of Glamorgan Council’s five-strong ‘cabinet’ which actually runs the council  – and is the cabinet member for transport.

Cllr Peter King (Labour Cornerswell) voiced concerns about poor air quality in Cogan and the "Canyon Effect" caused by the local topography - which he considered would be exacerbated by the new building

Cllr Peter King (Labour Cornerswell) voiced concerns about poor air quality in Cogan and the “Canyon Effect” caused by the local topography – which he considered would be exacerbated by the new building

Cllr King  asserted that the problem at Cogan was what he called “the Canyon Effect”. He said that the topography of Penarth Heights, and the terrace-effect at the bottom end of Windsor Road, holds the air. He asked members “Please when you visit – look at how this [development] will extend that canyon”.  

Cllr Clive Williams – who had seconded the motion for a site visit – said that the council wanted more affordable housing – but this site was the entrance into Penarth and he thought a better design could have been produced.

The Planning Department of the Vale of Glamorgan Council had already recommended to councillors that they should permit the Cogan Hill development to go ahead.

Vale Planning Chairman Cllr Fred Johnson - who has been de-selected by the Labour Party - forecast that the Cogan Hill development would never be built.

Vale Planning Chairman Cllr Fred Johnson – who has been de-selected by the Labour Party – forecast that the Cogan Hill development would never be built.

However Cllr Fred Johnson the chairman of the Planning Committee – who has been deselected by the Labour party and will not stand again for re-election to the Vale Council in the forthcoming elections in May  – said “Myself, I don’t think it will ever get built”.

 

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18 Responses to VALE COUNCIL DEFERS DECISION ON CONTENTIOUS COGAN HILL CONDO COMPLEX

  1. hopenotnasty says:

    This building looks an eyesore even before it is built. Over development of such a small site. The councillors are right to have a site visit before we have something like colditz built on entering Penarth.

  2. Cymry Llundain says:

    Vale Planning Committee, please refuse it on the grounds that it doesn’t meet your own Supplementary Planning Guidelines re. amenity space. There isn’t any! If the council would only enforce its own guidelines, we might end-up with a less unpleasant over development: for the occupiers as well as the rest of us.

    • St Augustine says:

      It seems that if you are a big developer you don’t need to provide any private or communal gardens for your residents. However, if you are a retired grandmother living in Plassey Street, you have to knock half your house down to provide you with a garden you don’t want. And if you don’t comply, the council will make you homeless.

  3. Paul says:

    Velcome to Stalag 14, ja.
    Ve hav vays of keeping u here…

    • Mark Foster says:

      Albert Speer had nothing on Marcus Goldworthy, Neil Moore and Lis Burnett in the use of architecture to mould the minds of the masses. LOL.

  4. Little boxes , little boxes , all made out of ticky tack little boxes , little boxes and they all look just the same ………………….

  5. Lex79 says:

    This would be a total over development with insufficient parking and no amenity space. It’s is out of character and of poor design. This cannot possibly be approved!

  6. Fishhenge says:

    That needs to be a retail or commercial space, not residential.

  7. AK says:

    They’ll pass it – and stick in a few more sets of traffic lights to slow the traffic.
    It surely can’t be any worse than the new block next to the flyover.
    They will get past the amenity space by pointing out that it is across the road from the Rec.
    They will get past the parking argument by pointing out that it is next to two free car parks!

  8. Guido says:

    There is some merit in AK’s comments in that the 3 blocks of flats opposite the leisure centre were approved on appeal with the Planning Inspector overturning the original refusal by argueing that Cogan Rec. would provide the necessary amenity space. In regard to car parking, again Planning Inspectors are forcing Councils to take on board the presence of nearby public transport routes and facilities in offsetting any shortfall in onsite carparking provision and clearly in this case, such facilities are readily available. Design issues are also often not a valid planning ground for refusal especially in locations such as this.

  9. snoggerdog says:

    if you keep pushing thru all this horrendous uglyness i think you will find our desparate friends from overseas will give penarth & its environs a miss.

  10. Clive says:

    Irrespective of Billy Banks pastiche architecture approving this will severely limit opportunities for new road layout solutions at the “gateway” to Penarth or more particularly the only practicable exit. Traffic flow should be a priority given the concerns of air quality in Cogan

    • Robert says:

      Well said. Health and wellbeing should be a priority. Not some developer trying to make a fortune from land bought cheap when Robert Smith went bankrupt.

  11. Modernist says:

    I believe that the Planning Committee had already approved a very similar scheme in 2013, so will we hear the sound of furious backpedalling as they seek to avoid a major claim for damages at Appeal if they refuse this version?

  12. Max Wallis says:

    The highest measured pollution levels are not in the Cogan Dip but at the old dock station, now Marine Scene – just across the road from the proposed Colditz building. [http://www.valeofglamorgan.gov.uk/Documents/_Committee%20Reports/Cabinet/2016/16-10-17/Appendices/Air-Quality-Report-Appendix-1.pdf ] This Council report says not to extend the Air Quality Management Zone (ends at Andrew Rd corner) as there’s no-one exposed to the harmful pollution levels. That’s a good planning reason for refusing housing there – it’s a disgrace of a housing association that aims for crammed social housing in such a dreadful polluted spot.

    • Modernist says:

      Even if it were an issue, there are numerous mechanical means of treating polluted air and many residential developments use them. How else would anything get built in cities across the UK?

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