St Augustine's Triangle is a steep wooded area which is maintained by Penarth Town Council

St Augustine’s Triangle is a steep wooded area which is maintained by Penarth Town Council

Members of Penarth Council’s Leisure and Amenities Committee have been discussing what can be done to improve the state of Penarth’s two “Triangles” .

Triangle No. 1 is a steeply-sloping wooded area near St Augustine’s Church where two large trees were blown down recently.

Triangle No 2 is a garden/rockery area at the junction of Arcot Street and Queen’s Road.

The Arcot St/Queen's Road Triangle is almost entirely surrounded by cars and taxi cabs

The Arcot St/Queen’s Road Triangle is almost entirely surrounded by cars and taxi cabs and features a few trees and several stone boulders

Cllr Anthony Ernest (Conservative Plymouth Ward)

Cllr Anthony Ernest (Conservative Plymouth Ward)

Cllr Anthony Ernest – Conservative Plymouth Ward – said the Arcot Street Triangle seemed to have been “sort of abandoned” . He said “It’s probably 20 years or more since it was created” and  wondered whether any improvement were in prospect. He said Albert Road Primary school had – some time ago  – taken on the task of looking after it but he thought this arrangement had rather fallen by the wayside.

Cllr Ernest said it was always nice to have something which involved local schoolchilden  and he wondered whether it was worth a letter to the school to initiate a further discussion to see whether they would like to get involved again.

[PDN Note:  This discussion took place on before councillors were aware of the discovery of the body of Albert School’s headteacher Mr Huw Jones at Lavernock Church].

The Arcot St Triangle

The Arcot St/Queen St Triangle near St Paul’s Church . In bygone days a shelter/cab-stand stood on the site for drivers and passengers of horse-drawn traps.

Cllr Neil Thomas (Labour Cornerswell)

Committee Chairman Cllr Neil Thomas (Labour Cornerswell)

Cllr Thomas pointed out that the Arcot St Triangle near St Paul’s Church was not the responsibility of Penarth Town Council – it was a matter for the Vale Council.

On the St Augustine’s Triangle Cllr Gwyn Roberts said he thought the area was very steep. Deputy Town Clerk Keri Hutchings said Penarth Town Council undertook responsibility for  the grass cutting on this area .

At this point the committee went into camera for confidential discussions and PDN is not allowed to report what was said at this point of the proceedings.

When the committee resumed normal business, Cllr Neil Thomas   suggested that the Queen’s Road/ Arcot St / St Paul’s Triangle should go on the agenda for future meeting

The apex of the St Augustine's Triangle

The apex of the St Augustine’s Triangle

On the St Augustine’s Triangle, Cllr Thomas said it was “fairly wild”  but well maintained and had some benches and some trees which were monitored. It was regarded as just a green open space that looked quite nice – but he would like to see more flowers there .

Cllr Gwyn Roberts (Labour St Augustines)

Cllr Gwyn Roberts (Labour St Augustines)

Cllr Gwyn Roberts said the St Augustine’s Triangle  was maintained by Penarth Town Council very well  – but advised that there could be problems in involving schoolchildren at this location. He said  there were somevery lazy dog owners” and it was the nearest place to enable their “dogs to make a mess – all the time”.

The Deputy Town Clerk Keri Hutchings said that the council was “looking at the parcels of land which we have got “. The council had improvement schemes under way for the grounds of its HQ at West House [where a “herb garden”  is being created, and the hedge abutting Stanwell Road is being reduced in height ]  – and for the Kymin and the Cemetery.

Mr Hutchings said the council could look at St Augustine’s Triangle and at “beautifying its appearance ” . However Cllr Gwyn Roberts said he didn’t see St Augustine’s Triangle  as a priority “at the moment” and this was the general view of the committee.




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  1. Mary says:

    Wasn’t the Arcot Street Triangle the one that Prince Charles visited years and years ago

    • snoggerdog says:

      yes,he cut the ribbon &officially opened it, he used come back two or three times a year to do a bit of weeding,but i havnt seen him back since they closed the “royal”

    • Alison Smith says:

      Yes I helped design and build it when I was in Albert Road Primary school that was pre 1980

  2. Max Wallis says:

    Whyever a confidential session on St Augustines Triangle? Were they looking at liability for trees falling on parked cars – a universal problem over which procedures should be clear – to adopt officer ideas for cutting down mature trees? They got criticism for proposing to fell the birch tree (marked with yellow cross) at the upper westerly corner, though it’s leaning into the triangle. So have they now made felling trees into a “confidential” matter?

    • Geoff says:

      More likely a developer is in the process of submitting plans for a five-storey block of “assisted housing” on the site. This is one of the few remaining areas of green left in Penarth. I imagine it irks that is hasn’t been built on and is in someone’s sights.

  3. Richard says:

    What about a ‘Trim Trail’ and some swings and a skateboard park? Come on gang, you’re slipping. At the moment, wildlife is allowed to monopolise this area. We need concrete and metal. We need noise and litter. We need ‘AMENITIES’. Altogether now, what do we need? AMENITIES.

  4. Tim says:

    What about using both areas as venues for open air music events that could blast out, frightening the wildlife and shaking the walls of nearby houses? Stuff the party poopers and the NIMBYs, we want EVENTS!!!

  5. Jack says:

    Re the St. Augustine’s Triangle, I’m thinking a skateboard park (with the blessing of Councillor King’s son, of course) plus some kind of system (akin to the high wire proposed at Cosmeston) to function as an air lift carrying people back up for another go.
    Failing that, what about a mini ski slope?

  6. Billy says:

    Let’s cut to the chase here. Put simply, it’s nothing short of a disgrace that both these quiet, green areas of wildlife haven’t been rammed with activities for the deprived inhabitants of our town.

  7. AK says:

    Secret discussions on public open space ?

    Sounds well dodgy.

    They’ll be building homes on Cogan Rec next

  8. MrTea says:

    St. Augustine’s Triangle is a wonderful nature haven. I walk through it most days and have never seen dog poo in there. It is perfect as is and sets the church off beautifully. PLEASE COUNCILLORS! leave it alone. I’m sure you all have the interests of Penarth at heart but some areas of Penarth just need to be preserved as is.

    • Tom says:

      Shush, for goodness sake. The moment they think anyone is happy with an unspoilt oasis of wildlife, they’ll fire up the cement mixers and slather it in concrete.

      • George says:

        That’ll be after they’ve got the chain saws out to raze the trees and bushes to the ground, remove any habitat for wildlife, then the diggers move in to rip up the turf ready for the hardcore for the concrete. Job done.

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