EMPTY HOUSE IS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE SYRIAN REFUGEES IN PENARTH

A “Curry Night” was held in St Augustine’s Church Hall last week to raise funds to resettle Syrian refugees in Penarth

A newly-founded refugee-support group has approached Penarth Town Council asking for its backing in sponsoring the resettlement of a family of Syrian refugees in Penarth.

The group – called “Croeso Penarth[ Welcome Penarth”] – says it’s “working with the Home Office and arranging housing and support for a minimum of 2 years”.

The actual number of people that the group is proposing to resettle in Penarth is not stated.

The logo of the newly launched group which aims to resettle Syrian refugees in Penarth

The group is now looking for a vacant house in Penarth which might be suitable to accommodate the refugees.

It says We need a house, in Penarth, for housing benefit rates. It’s a big ask but we are confident that there is a landlord out there somewhere who can help us….are you that landlord? If you are or you think you may know someone who is….get in touch.”

The Croeso Penarth group says it is already liaising with the Vale of Glamorgan Council and has suggested it would be “extremely useful” to have the support of Penarth Town Council as this would show they “have the support of the local community”.

The organisation was founded in June and is not registered with the Charity Commission. It is, however, currently carrying out fundraising, gathering pledges of financial support and plans to make a formal application to the  Home Office in November to resettle the refugees in Penarth.

On its Facebook page the group has been asked who is actually behind the project. The response given by one of its organisers – Rowena Shaw – stated that “there are a core group of people to move things along and this includes members from several churches as well as individuals and myself and Sarah Chick from ‘Penarth Supporting Refugees’.”

“Penarth Supporting Refugees” also supports refugees in Calais  – as illustrated on this photo on its Facebook page

Similar schemes under similar names are also being simultanously launched elsewhere in Wales including the village of Narberth where it is called “Croeso Narberth

The community sponsorship scheme was launched as part of the government’s commitment to resettle thousands of  refugees in the UK and aims to  enable “community groups” –  including charities, faith groups, churches and businesses – to take on the role of supporting resettled refugees in the UK.

Penarth Town Council officers have asked the group to provide more information about its proposals.

 

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52 Responses to EMPTY HOUSE IS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE SYRIAN REFUGEES IN PENARTH

  1. Frank Evans says:

    There is an empty house at the top end of Plymouth road. It’s been fully refurbished and on the market for £1,000,000. I’m sure it would be suitable as I know some Syrian “refugees” preferences are forthe richer parts of Europe. Greece and croatia just isn’t up to their standard. As I’m sure is the case with Barry so hence the smart move to leafy Penarth.

    • Philip Rapier says:

      Homes 4 U is the Vale of Glamorgan Council “bid” scheme for local homeless people.
      Here is a random selection of desperate posts of local people from the “Unofficial Homes 4 U Facebook Page.” Although the stats are inflated by the Council- Homelessness in the Vale is a frightening reality for some
      ———————————————————————————————————————–
      Real posts from Facebook -Unofficial Homes 4 U page names and pseudonyms I have removed to protect the privacy of the homeless person.

      Annon please
      I had a call from someone from vale of glamorgan council as I am on gold pluss they told me I need to go on a tenancy training program before I will be alocated a property an if I dont go I wont be alocated one has anyone else had to do one of these if so what do you do and how long is it for ?
      30 Mar 17

      Here is today’s advert unfortunately there is nothing for families just mainly over 55. Not good at all
      11 May 17

      Does anyone know of a number for the team that deals with disabled applicants needs? Whenever I call I get through to someone who cant deal with medical priority tenants
      13 July 17
      ————————————————————————————————————————

  2. Chris David says:

    Just a question or two- not an attack before the holier than thou brigade spout off. So is it the fact that these very unfortunate people who deserve help, never- the-less can claim benefits and are with help, are being put forward to jump the housing queue? I ask because I don’t understand the system and believe in fairness to all who help themselves.

    • Ame says:

      In this scheme the housing is not provided by local authority but by a private landlord. In this respect they will not ne jumping the que for housing.

      • Kevin Mahoney says:

        If housing benefit is involved then it would be jumping the queue of people in the Vale currently living with relatives and seeking alternative accommodation whether it was a council or private house.

        Then take into account a family using the NHS whilst people who have paid all their lives to fund it are dying on a consultants waiting list or waiting for an operation plus of course educational and every other associated social cost.

        Presumably there’s going to be a curry night held twice a week for years by the social concience of Penarth and the wider Vale to fund the whole package required in such situations?

      • Chris David says:

        Oh so if I steal your lottery ticket? …………….

  3. Kevin Mahoney says:

    I did ask at a full council meeting last year how many people were on the waiting list for accommodation in the Vale as the Vale Labour administration was pontificating about spending £100,000 on housing Syrian refugees the answer was over 3,000.

    I’d like to suggest that we look after people already here before taking on the Worlds self inflicted ills.

    • Mark Foster says:

      They are not the World’s self-inflicted ills. They were caused by the British Arthur Balfour Declaration which established the State of Israel in return for Rothschild and the Zionists bringing the Americans into the First World War against Germany.

      “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

      Notwithstanding Sunni and Shia Islam, this is the primary cause of the wars in Iraq, Libya, Syria and is the primary concomitant cause of the engineered mass immigration into the UK, Europe and the USA. The desperate people who create these strategies are prepared to live with Merton’s Law of Unintended Consequences even the now inevitable World War 3.

      • Jan Harding says:

        We read with horror & disgust the anti-semitic ravings of Mark Foster on July 29.
        The Balfour Declaration was intended to provide a Jewish Homeland in what was then a British protectorate region for a people who had been persecuted all over the world. The rationale behind the location of the State of Israel was the fact that it had been the site of a Jewish region since before Islam, or indeed Christianity, came into being; ie Islamic year 1438, Christian year 2017, Jewish year 5777.
        On two recent visits to Poland we went to Auschwitz & Birkenau to pay our respects to family & other co-religionists who were murdered by the Germans during World War 2 and the thought occurred that had the Balfour Declaration been implemented when it was intended and not put on hold to placate Middle East business interests such as oil exploration, maybe six million Jews would have had a chance of avoiding the Holocaust.

    • Jan Harding says:

      👍

      • Jan Harding says:

        Sorry this thumbs up is not agreeing wih Mark Foster please delete from here.
        many thanks.

    • Lucie says:

      Yes I agree.

  4. Peter Petherick says:

    I don`t think these people are or will be Refugees.

    • Ame says:

      This is a confusing comment. What do you base this statement on? The Syrian family will be sellected and vetted by the Home office and the United Nations from families currently living in a hidiously overpopulated refugee camp in a neighbouring county to Syria. If you don’t understand the scheme and wish to have more information it may be worth googling “home office community sponsorship scheme”.

  5. bigpoopSki says:

    Who will be the refugees, Families a man woman and children? Or just young single man as in the picture? I don’t want to be a party pooper but if they are single young men, then they need to be vetted and make sure they don’t have criminal record’s and are not part of any group if you know what I mean. plus depending where they come from they need to know what is acceptable over here in their actions towards women . Just look at youtube .. Anyway I’m sure the powers at be will have everyone’s best interest at heart … and who ever they put there will be law abiding citizens

    • Kevin Mahoney says:

      Not the best example I’m afraid, Mr Cooper was an aggressive drunk with hundreds of convictions who intimidated many people in Penarth town centre if they refused to give him money. Whilst having to deal with his occupation of the bus shelter following complaints from local residents, the police told me that he had been allocated a house in the past but had wrecked it and stripped out all the pipework before selling it for scrap. He occupied the bus stop for some time forcing old age pensioners, the young and other bus users to stand out in the rain and cold. The police also told me that he and his blankets were full of scabies and of course he was using the area behind the bus shelter as a toilet.

      He was the reason that the council had to strip out the existing bench and fit a shorter one in the bus shelter in order to make too uncomfortable to sleep on. I had to get the whole area and bus stop disinfected by the council after he finally departed some months before he shuffled off this mortal coil.

      I’m afraid that you just can’t help some people and to be frank why should we be helping someone with such a history of convictions and violent aggressive behaviour. It was a touch odd that some locals saw him as some sort of jovial local character rather than the often aggressive menace that he actually was.

      I reserve my sympathy for decent people not violent drunk tramps.

    • Ame says:

      It will be a family who have been fully vetted and chosen by both the home office and the united nations.

  6. Louise C says:

    I take comfort from the number of people at the Curry Night. With so many good people in Penarth, I’m sure the refugees will be made most welcome.

  7. Farmer Ioan says:

    Appears very sinister…why wouldn’t they register as a charity unless there is some dodgy dealing?

    • BigpooSki says:

      I agree I was thinking that too!!

    • Ame says:

      They are working under the umbrella charity of Citizens UK. Registering as a charity when you don’t have an annual ternover of over £5k (which a new group obviously wouldn’t have) is not possible.

  8. Mr S Dout Tea says:

    Is it April fools? I’m sorry but charity begins at home. “Welcome Penarth” more like a load of middle class people trying to make themselves feel better. This refugee family will be dumped in Penarth, stranded, as a token. They will become an exhibit. This has not been thought out, it is reckless.

    • BigpooSki says:

      I agree, But housing British homeless is not newsworthy you won’t see curry nights for them they have to fend for themselves. There was a homeless guy a few years ago that would sleep in a bus shelter till the authorities moved him on I think most people know him
      (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/homeless-man-told-remove-festive-1797170 ) I think he’s dead now ..

      • Mr S Dout Tea says:

        This is just a vanity project for the Guardian readers of Penarth. It has not been thought out at all, what happens after the 2 years? Do we send them back into the wild? What happens if the landlord wants his/her house back, do they have squatters rights? It’s a joke and as I’ve said before charity begins at home. Let’s help house our own.

      • snoggerdog says:

        gary cooper, see kevin mahoney above.

    • RT64 says:

      I agree, a variety project for the fake news brigade. If you let one in, you’re opening the floodgates. “Rivers of blood” comes to mind. What happens when this “family” requires feeding or when they requests a place of worship. Will Mr D Lush be suppling hala meat and St Augustine convicted into a mosque?

  9. waiting and waiting says:

    in small housing association flat but been waiting bigger one or House in Penarth for years and years, and Creoso are asking for someone give house now rent free two years would love that where do we apply

  10. Father Ted Crilly says:

    What a lovely “diverse” mix of white people in that “curry night” festival in the church hall 🙂
    Who’s idea was it to have a Curry Night, does that make them more understanding of the less fortunate people and their funny foreign eating ways.
    Next they could organise a black and white minstrel show to raise funds for African missionaries!
    Still, if you choose to live in a ethnically non diverse and up market area like Penarth you have to do something to cleanse your Conscience.

  11. Chris David says:

    We could use West House- its not being used for much these days.

  12. RetailGuru says:

    Not registered as a charity, poorly researched idea…. hmmm I smell a rat…

  13. Dusty Bin says:

    If it was a spoof it would be believable. It isn’t. It is utter madness and a total white middle class indulgence. There are many areas where the Government’s housing money would support this family. I agree with Mr S Dout Tea, the Syrians will be like exhibits in a zoo… to be looked at and talked about… they are never going to feel good about themselves knowing the curry club and their apparently illegal fundraising have paid for them and given them their cast off furniture. The thousands on the priority council list should be considered first. It’s a vanity project… and shame on Croeso Penarth for wanting to raise thousands to queue jump a family. It’s quite bizarre.

  14. Jepow says:

    Agree this is just people trying to make themselves feel better without actually having to give, do or risk anything themselves (see previous ideas to make traders refill £10 PTC water bottles (without stopping to think that such ‘services’ being provided by the traders would have quite an associated cost – to the same traders, who would also lose the ability to sell bottled water), or who ‘adopt’ an aggressive tramp and feed him ‘treats’ (not nutrition), or who want sponsorship to undergo a trial of some sort (usually biking it through America) to ‘support chariteee’ (i.e. Quite fancy the trip).
    The best thing to do to help the poor Syrians is to raise money for the camps in the Middle East where those who can’t afford to travel to Europe, or can’t leave their families behind to do so.

    Also worth looking at what happened when the Isle of Bute, in Scotland, offered homes to 10 families. Some 70 people arrived, the islanders held curry nights (sic) to make them feel welcome, sourced an Imam, got new foods into the shop’s and some new teachers for the schools. All fine, until the Syrians got bored, cold, and wanted to live to Glasgow … Am not criticising anyone here, just pointing out that we’ll-meaning isn’t always kindest.

  15. AK says:

    That’s rubbish. The Syrian fa milies remain on the Isle of Bute and are very happy there.

    Don’t believe everything you read in the Daily Mail.

    We can’t accommodate all the refugees – but we can completely change the lives of one or two.

    • Owain Smith says:

      Rubbish, they are not very happy there, Rothersay on the Isle of Bute is one of the most deprived places in Scotland, think Barry but even poorer.
      The “refugees” bemoaned their lack of prospects there and did talk about this to the press, but were told to shut up or they might be sent back.
      So. you want to change the lives of one or two “”lucky families””, you heartless mean sod!
      Why not you use your efforts to stop the Syrian war and let all the families return home?
      This is not a lottery, this is human life and death we are talking about.

      • Philip Rapier says:

        As one who’s merely been there- Bute that is. I would have to say it is tough for some as there are foodbanks for example just like everywhere else in Tory ruled UK.
        Every assistance and encouragement is given to Islanders to work at being self sufficient in Food through the Bute sustainability programme. Could it be the work is the bit they don’t like I wonder? Apparently there is a Syrian Hairdresser.
        The 3rd Marquess of Bute built Mountstuart House on the Island. A stunning replica of Cardiff Castle so it canna be nae so bad hen.
        Do go and visit my Grannies Heelan Hame yersel before you rush to judgement. You’ll probably, just like me- love every inch of it!

  16. cogan nomen says:

    There is a large house in Plymouth Road which has been unoccupied for 20 years . Does the owner pay council tax ? If not – take it off him and use that property .

  17. Louise C says:

    They aren’t looking for a free house. they need one at a little less then full market rent. It’s one family escaping a war zone. I see no reason why this can’t be a successful venture. Get involved!

    • Penny G says:

      Market rents in Penarth for a house is about 4 times that of areas say in Ebbw Vale.
      So do the Christian thing and help 4 Families out of the war zone find a house.
      I see no reason why cheaper areas are not far better use of charity money.
      Get involved!

      • Chris David says:

        Christian thing! Islam things!! amongst the 1,000 fantasies that cause so many of these problems ay!

    • Chris David says:

      Why do they need one “a little less than full market” ? Emphasis on the word need. How much under? Why is there no reason this can’t be a successful venture? One family! How big? Ta.

    • That Condor Moment says:

      Louise, you are not being accurate. Croeso Penarth appear to be looking for a house at less than half market rent. Further the family have already escaped and war zone. The family are within the safety of our UK shores. The questions are: Why has the Croeso Penarth Group not registered as a charity? Why the need to bring the family to Penarth and enable it to jump the housing queue when local people have been on the social housing waiting list for years? Why the ‘need’, there are as others say, many other areas where families can be housed for less, in communities less socially isolated.

      • Chris David says:

        Well thank you Condor, revealing. However your assertion “The questions are” needs rephrasing. Yours are not the only ones and I would like to see the well intentioned Louise answer mine as well- thanks.

  18. Kevin Mahoney says:

    Philip Rapier, you do realise that food banks first appeared in the UK during the 13 years of complete and utter incompetence under a Labour run government resulting in the financial crash which occurred under the watch of that very same Labour government don’t you?

    You do don’t you?………… Don’t you?

    • Peter Church says:

      Philip Rapier just spouts the same old anti Tory agenda mixed with some historical neo socialist clap trap. Never a word about how Labour opened the doors in the UK to immigration without thinking things through or built schools and hospitals on PFI without costing it out properly and leaving the next generation to pick up the tab.
      As the Labour minister said when they were kicked out “Sorry we have spent all your money”

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