Many MPs are complaining they’re finding it difficult to get into the Labour Party Conference this year – including some of the 40 rebels who – with Stephen Doughty –  have demanded the Labour Party should state that if in government it would stay in the Single Market.

The Labour MP for Cardiff South and Penarth, Stephen Doughty, has joined 40 other rebel Labour MPs to sign an “open letter”  demanding that the Labour Party should back “full membership” of the Single Market and full membership of the Customs Union.

Madeline Moon (Labour MP for Bridgend)  qualified at Keele as a teacher and has a social work diploma

More than 40 so-called “senior figures”  in the Labour Party have appended their signatures to the letter – including Madeline Moon (Labour Bridgend) , Chris Bryant (Labour Rhondda),  the former Welsh Secretary and now life-peer Lord Hain  and Stephen Doughty .

The ‘Rebel 40’ are demanding that the Labour Party should have  “the courage of its convictions on Brexit” and should state it intends to remain in the Single Market and Customs Union . Most voters in Wales however are in favour of getting out of the EU.

The Anti-Corbyn Rebels claim that  “the economic impact of leaving the Single Market would hit the most vulnerable in our society hardest. Vital employment and environmental protections would be placed at the whim of this or any future Tory government. And being outside the Customs Union would mean masses of new red tape, a desperate scramble for trade agreements and the re-emergence of a border in Ireland.”.

Stephen Doughty in Brighton today . He joined 40 other Labour politicians in signing an open letter demanding Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn change his stance on the Single Market

The 40 Rebels –  including Doughty – are demanding that Labour should “commit to staying in the Single Market and Customs Union”  and should not “rule out any options for doing so” – a phrase which appears to suggest a preparedness to consider no restraint on immigration via the EU.

The Rebels say Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party leadership need to go further than just arguing for a “transitional period” – and claim “it is simply unsustainable to say we are an anti-austerity party but that we would jeopardise ties with our biggest trading partner.”

Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn

Labour’s would-be Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn and his Marxist colleague (and now proclaimed future Chancellor)  John McDonnell –  have so far  said only that they want to ensure what they call “tariff-free access to the European market” . Both are wary of the Single Market. Corbyn says – “it has within it restrictions on state aid and state spending” and also a penchant for Labour’s bete-noire “privatisation”.

The Labour Party hierachy has been at pains to avoid having a debate on Brexit at the party’s annual conference in Brighton today. John McDonnell has denied the party is “stifling debate about Brexit”.

However an email from Labour’s ultra-left-wing  “Momentum” group , is said by Sky News to have urged party members NOT to call for a debate on Brexit . McDonnell later denied the message was part of a “cynical ploy”

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  1. penarthblog says:

    I’m not a labour voter or supporter, but on this issue, I agree with him. It’s just common sense.

    • Frank Evans says:

      The UK voted to leave the EU single (uncompetitive) market and the rest of the EU jobs for the failed politician club. So do the right thing Doughty and do what people want.

    • Philip Rapier says:

      We did not vote for UKIPtopian lies or Boris Johnson Bank of Toytown Economics.or Money Tree promises of NHS extra cash. What we voted for was a say in our own future. Every Board Meeting I have been to is aware that ultimately the shareholders are consulted so as to approve the Final Accounts. Why are the Government so afraid of a second referendum to allow the electors/ shareholders in UK plc an opportunity to approve the Brexit Final Accounts?.
      To quote Hamlet
      “thus consience doth make cowards of us all”


      • Ian Symonds says:

        Spot on.

      • Frank Evans says:

        We voted to leave and should just get on with it. How do countries outside the corrupt EU ever manage? If you listen to some remoaners.
        It’s like voting not to catch the penarth to Cardiff train and still running down the tracks after it.
        Leave the EU and go onto WTO rules and stop Eastern European accordion playing beggars scrounging off the UK.

      • Kevin Mahoney says:

        We voted out as a country just as we once voted to remain in as country in 1975.

        We didn’t vote for a bunch of spolit sulking politicians who lost a referendum to manufacture in their own heads a made up excuse to have another referendum because they lost the first one, and then presumably another one if they lose that and then another one if they lose that one.

        The mostly unintelligible Mr Rapier and his sulking labour friends need to get into their heads that losing a democratic vote is just that, Get over it and move on.

        We’re leaving for a more democratic UK that makes it’s own laws and decides on it’s own future despite the best eforts of the sulkers and the hopelessly incompetent Theresa May to scupper the result of the recent referendum.

      • Philip Rapier says:

        UKIP has a referendum for a new leader whenever it wants to!
        I suppose for UKIP 4 leaders in 12 months is not changing your mind neither is it having a vote until you get the right result. This is merely the usual minor party incompetence.
        Can’t wait to see the expression on Mr Fromage’s face if we come out financially blind,- Billions and Billions poorer and without the Electorate’s approval.- of course the UK may be bankrupt then but that will nothing compared to the joy we will all have from food poverty and hunger for our children . A small price to pay for being right about everything including that we cannot see or express an opinion on and the whole of Europe being wrong about everything.

      • Frank Evans says:

        The only bankruptcy the UK faces if your left wing friend comrade Corbyn ever gets to be PM. God help us, even the thought of it sends a shiver down my spine.

  2. Louise C says:

    Nice one. Good to see our MP speaking up for the people of Cardiff South & Penarth. We voted Remain.

  3. Robin Lynn says:

    He may have defied Welsh voters but not CS&P voters

  4. The Roadsweeper says:

    Bye bye EU… Hello freedom.

    • William Wallets says:

      Freedom from standards of living – just what we all wanted. ‘Freedom’ indeed! An unknown future at a dreadful cost to our way of life.

  5. AK says:

    If I elect to leave a club, I don’t see how I can ‘negotiate’ to make use of part of its benefits or facilities. I leave – then I may be able to negotiate under specific terms.

    The UK voted collectively to leave the EU. What Scotland, Wales, Penarth or anywhere else voted is irrelevant. Can we just get on with it and go? The rest of the world awaits.

    • Papa Lazarou says:


    • Ralph says:

      The “club” analogy is overworked and ridiculous.
      When you join a club you are not obliged to use all of it’s facilities.
      Does your club mandate that you use light fittings only approved by your club?

  6. M Miggs says:

    Why are we still in the EU.? We voted out as do not wish to be told what to do by unelected bureaucrats over whom we have no control. We don’t want a deal,we should be telling them what deal we will give them not vice versa.

  7. Frank Evans says:

    The loony left conference in Brighton is the best fictional tv programme for years. They have promised over £200Bn and it’s only Tuesday!
    La last land politics, well be using wheel barrows to cart around money of they ever get into power.

    • DRT Andrews says:

      Don’t worry Frank, we’re already stocked up on wheelbarrows to cart round the money for the NHS which the Brexiteers promised us.

  8. M Miggs says:

    The three reasons you request penarthblog 1. Why should unelected bureaucrats tell us what to do. 2. The European Union do not want us as we would veto the formation of a Federal State 3.More business is available outside Europe.

    • penarthblog says:

      Thank you for your reply. Can you give me examples of bureaucrats telling us what to do? You are correct in saying some politicians want a federal future for the EU, but there is a significant opposition to such proposals and would require the agreement of all the government’s. It would take only one to scupper such an idea. Business is, as you rightly say, available outside the EU, but as part of a major trading bloc, the deals we make are advantageous as a visit to any shop or supermarket will demonstrate. Is the EU perfect? Hell no and I criticise it constantly, having the parliament meeting in Strasburg and Brussels is ridiculous and wasteful and there are many other examples, but on balance, being in is better than being out.

      • M Miggs says:

        Absolutely :The European Courts take precedence over our Parliamentary laws, MEN’s have no authority the Brussels bureaucrats tell them what to do.Finally the Commonwealth is far bigger than the EU and the EU need to do business with us more than us with them and they will only charge us 4% anyway no big deal.

  9. penarthblog says:

    I fully understand what you say about the Commonwealth, but the world has changed. Australia is a member of APEC (Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation) as well as other local organisations. South Africa is a member of AU (African Union) again as well as other local organisations and Canada is a member of NAFTA. And many Commonwealth countries put local trade well before trade with the UK and when they do consider trade with this part of the world, the EU comes before the UK as has been stated by the Australian government. All that said, I accept many of the things you say.

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